Nevertheless, how does one determine exactly who the enemy is inside the Church? How can we know who the false prophets are? Christ Himself gave us the answer.
Matthew 7:16 By their fruit you will recognize them.
Bishop Athanasius Schneider made the same mistake as the Pharisees. They ignored the fruits. In the Gospel of Matthew Chapter 12, the Pharisees accused Jesus of driving out demons through Beelzebul. What the Pharisees say did not make any sense. Satan will never drive out demons. According to Jesus:
Matthew 12: And if I drive out demons by Beelsebul, by whom do your people drive them out?
ONLY the Holy Spirit can drive out demons. And ONLY the Holy Spirit can convert a sinner. However, according to the jungle who quoted Bishop Schneider:
So the fruit of conversions is not a decisive criterion for me and I will not invite this good Protestant group which converts sinners and has a lot of children to my diocese to engage in apostolate. This is the illusion of many bishops, who are blinded by the so-called fruits.Bishop Schneider labeled the Neocatechumenal Way a "Protestant group". Yet, ONLY the Holy Spirit can convert sinners. It is impossible for man to convert on his own power. After all, even the Apostle Paul was converted by God. Like the Pharisees who could not see that it was the Holy Spirit who drove out demons, Bishop Schneider could not see that it was the Holy Spirit who converted sinners. Therefore, the Holy Spirit must certainly be working within this so-called "Protestant group" rather than his diocese. Satan cannot and will not convert sinners no more than he would drive out demons. Both the jungle and Bishop Schneider are blind to Jesus' words of Truth: "By their fruit you will recognize them."
The end is near for your neo movement. Kiko's preachings will soon be silenced and this island will soon rejoice again without your neocult beliefs. Surely Diana, the Vatican was listening to the people of guam. Soon Diana, brother tony has been exposed and is done.
ReplyDeleteDear Anonymous at 3:16 am,
DeleteMy only response to this is that I love you even if you destroy me. God, forgive them for they know not what they do.
Diana, what does that mean I love you even if you destroy me?
DeleteThis is the response to those who do persecution. Even if you destroy me, you cannot change a thing.
Delete3:16 AM nothing but Hate Hate Hate
DeleteHate is a form of correction. In a class pupils may feel hated by others. This would make them realize that they do something wrong. There is something in them to be hated. So they change their attitude and become more lovable. They learn to be better person. In the end, those who hated each other may become best friends. Not all hatred is the same. Some hatred is like education. Perhaps a little tough but could teach you to be real.
DeleteDear Anonymous at 8:22 am,
DeleteOn the contrary, hate is NOT a form of correction. Some people hate the person's race or skin color. One cannot change that. Hate tells more about the person who hates rather then the object of their hatred.
Diana, anon is right! It depends what you mean by "hate". Once I hated cabbage, now I love it! We read about happily married couples who hated each other before they fell in love!
DeleteLol, anon, do you think that Rohr secretly wanna be a neo? Does he hate NCW because he is attracted to it?! Well, perhaps! You never know. Saul became Paul on the road to Damascus. In a couple of years Rohr might become a lead catechist of Focolare or NCW. Lol.
DeleteDear Anonymous at 10:16 am,
DeleteAnd HOW is it a correction to someone who hates cabbage???? If a person hates cabbage, you do not need to correct the person into liking cabbage. Every person has their own favorite food and personal liking. These kind of things do not need to be corrected.
As for the couple who hated each other before they got married, it seems they never hated each other at all. The reason why some boys annoy girls is because they like the girl and want her attention.
Sin should always be hated, but the sinner should never be hated. Hate does not cause correction. It is love that causes correction. A parent corrects the behavior of her child out of Love, not out of hate.
Hating cabbage and then liking it teaches you that your object of hatred is not always what it looks like. Many kids in school need to learn this lesson! A favorite food may become hated and a hated food may become favorite. It has nothing to do with sin or sinners.
DeleteDiana, Jesus' concern about Belsebul is that it might belong to a different religion. Bel was the name of god among the nations. Bel-se-bul was one of the emissaries. Similar as Bel-sa-zar. Jesus confirmed that He and his Father are one, so He is the Son of the true God. He disagreed on the name of God, which is not Bel. But there is no disagreement on the power of God, even if you call him Bel or whatever, as converts did.
ReplyDeleteBishop Schneider's concern about the NCW's attempt to drive out the demons from the many followers is similar. Is it Protestant? Is it Jewish? Does it belong to different religion? Bishop Schneider thinks these are different religions. But if Jesus and His Father are one then the God of the Old Testament is the same. Is it not the same? Where is the contradiction?
There is no contradiction at all. If God is one, then how can you distance Judaic belief of a loving Father in heaven from God? Impossible! There is only one God. Bishop Schneider is blind to this fact of fruit. Fruit is coming from the Arc of Covenant, old and new, which is one and the same incarnated in our one Savior. Kiko, Carmen and the NCW are also one. The founders of charism and its people. Jesus Christ is also one, founder of Christian faith in the Catholic church! Not a separate religion but the fruit of God of our father Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. This is what bishop Schneider keeps forgetting.
Dear Anonymous at 6:47 am,
DeleteIn the scripture, both Jesus and the Pharisee inferred that Beelzebul was Satan. Why? Because Christ asked how can Satan drive out Satan?
However, you are correct that it is the power of God that drove out the demons. What Bishop Schneider failed to understand is that God acts through people and many times He acts through simple lay people who are not priests such as Moses, David, the prophets, and the many saints of whom many were women.
Dear Diana,driving out demons is not God acting. It is better called healing. Demon possession is another name for mental illness like epilepsy and healed by doctors who are lay people by the standards of religion. Jesus can heal because God can heal.
DeleteBelzeebub is an evil spirit according to Christian demonology.
DeleteDear anon, God's name in the Bible is El and not Bel. Also called Elohim, Eli Eli sabachtani. Pagan converts confused His name.
DeleteThis must be wrong. Demons are not of mental illness. Demons are the soldiers of the devil. Illness is healed by the power of God. Even if you are in a hospital!
DeleteThat is why you need an army to fight demons. You cannot fight the army of the devil without an army of God. Lay people are the army of God who chase out the demons. Look at them how they are shaking already because of their fear from God. Lol.
Demons are real! They move into you when you think you sweep clean the house... even inviting 1000 other demons with them to torment you.
Please justify that demons are real. It looks like there are only authoritative texts claiming that demons are real. But in real life nobody have ever seen one. Why is that?
DeleteEli, Eli sabachtani is what Jesus said before He died. "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" It is not the name of God. The name of God is Yahweh the Lord, and not Elohim. Elohim or Anunnaki is the assembly of gods in another religion. http://www.truthbeknown.com/anunnaki.htm
DeleteYou have to pray to God for healing. Healing is coming from God who good and merciful. He will heal you because He can. He is God, He can do anything! You are sick because of your own choice. I mean sick and a sinner. When you choose sin, you also choose illness. You are a sick man! God can heal you only if you pray from the bottom of your heart and ask also for the intersession of the Blessed Virgin Mary for you! She has a special grace of intersession with His Son for those who ask her.
DeleteHate is a natural human responce.
ReplyDeleteIt is ok to hate as long as we know how to manage hate.
eg to hate Cabbags simply means not to eat cabbage.
To hate another simply means to keep away from that other.
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Hate is not natural. It is the opposite of love. If you hate, you cannot love. If you cannot love, then you cannot comprehend the love of God either. So you despair and sin!
DeleteHate is from Satan, who is the father of all lies from the beginning. Cain hated Abel and killed him. The devil led his hands. Hate is sin, hate is murder! You need a catechist to cast out your demon, my friend! Do you have a good catechist?
Catechists get the ability to cast out demons by the imposition of hands of their masters. The master of a charism is able to discern good from evil and impose his hand of his followers. Jesus imposed His hand on the disciples and they became healers. Very powerful! Sin is an illness that needs healing. Look for one who is a true healer, be is a priest or just a disciple of the Lord.
Christ taught us to Love not hate.
ReplyDeleteYeah, coz hate is natural but love is divine!
DeleteCain killed Abel because of hate. Cain was unable to manage his hate so it led to sin of murder.
ReplyDeleteOur hate we guide it in a positive way to bring about good. So hate becomes a natural way to bring about good.
Dear Anonymous at 11:23 pm,
DeleteHate cannot lead to anything good.