Monday, April 4, 2016

A Comparison

Much has been said about the RM seminary on Guam.  A few times, I have compared it to St. John's Seminary in Los Angeles.  I am not the only one who have stated that RMS is a "corporation sole."  Father Pius said it is a corporation sole in his interview with the Pacific Daily News.  Father Adrian also said RMS is a corporation sole when interviewed by KUAM (See weblink below). 

KUAM interviews Father Adrian

The only one saying that RMS is NOT a corporation sole is the jungle.  His reason is because a corporation sole does not have a Board of Directors.   However, St. John's Seminary in Los Angeles, California has a board of directors with the Archbishop of Los Angeles as the corporate sole of the seminary. Then, Tim Rohr stated that St. John's "Board of Directors" is a board of directors for a school, NOT FOR A CORPORATION and therefore does not apply.  According to Tim Rohr: 
The "board of directors" referenced here is a board of directors for the school not the board of directors for a corporation because St. John's is not a corporation separate from the Archdiocese of Agana as is RMS. Note that their board is "legally an advisory group." This is typical of a school board, but not a corporate board. By law, a corporate board IS the "final authority" in corporate decisions. 

On the contrary, St. John's Seminary IS A CORPORATION.  According to the weblink below (the bold is mine):
St. John's Seminary In California is a California Domestic Corporation filed on May 20, 1940. The company's filing status is listed as Active and its File Number is C0183931.

The Registered Agent on file for this company is Randolph E. Steiner and is located at Archdiocese Of Los Angeles 3424 Wilshire Boulevard, Los Angeles, CA 90010. The company's principal address is 5012 Seminary Road, Camarillo, CA 93012.

The company has 1 principal on record. The principal is Jose Horacio Gomez from Los Angeles CA.
 St. John's Seminary

As anyone can clearly see, St. John's Seminary is a corporation. It is called a "company". CONTRARY to what Tim Rohr stated, the Board of Directors in St. John's Seminary is a corporate board rather than a school board.  According to the governance of St. John's Seminary in California, it is very similar to RMS.  According to the weblink below:
Governance at a Catholic seminary 
As a Catholic diocesan seminary, your governance model is somewhat unusual. For example, Cardinal Mahony acts as board chair, right?   

Yes. Under our bylaws, the ordinary of the diocese, Cardinal Roger M. Mahony, is the "corporate sole." So, it is his seminary and he is chair of the board. [Editor's note: In Catholic usage, an "ordinary" is a bishop who has jurisdiction over a diocese, as opposed to an auxiliary bishop or retired bishop, who does not have jurisdiction.]
St. John's Seminary

The same website above also stated the following:
Corporation sole: 
Like most Catholic diocesan seminaries St. John's is a "corporation sole," and the archbishop of Los Angeles is the "corporate sole," the single legal owner, who passes authority to his successor in office. At St. John's, the archbishop also serves as chair of the board of directors, which is legally an advisory group, not a board of trustees with final authority. Patrick Nichelson is president of the board.
 St. John's seminary is a corporation sole just as its website stated DESPITE that the legal name is St. John's Seminary and does NOT have  the name "corporation sole" next to it.  In the same way, RMS is a corporation sole whose legal name is Redemptoris Mater Seminary, Archdiocese of Agana.   The legal owner of St. John's seminary is listed as the Archbishop of Los Angeles.  Therefore, the legal owner of RMS must have a PERSON'S name, considering that it is a corporation sole. 


  1. This is where Tim twists things around. Nothing in the St. John's Seminary website says that the Board of Director is a school board. Tim is the only one saying it's a school board.

    1. Dear Anonymous at 10:07 am,

      That is correct. And Tim Rohr is the ONLY one saying that RMS is NOT a corporation sole. He has been using this kind of tactic as a propaganda weapon in order to sow division inside the Church.

  2. Dear Diana, perhaps you can explain why whenever the Archbishop's office appears listed in an official document, it is always written as "Archbishop of Agana, a corporation sole, Anthony Sablan Apuron (etc) incumbent"

    Whereas the RMS is ALWAYS written as "Redemptoris Mater Archdiocesan Seminary (etc)a non profit corporation"

    If the RMS is a "corporation sole", why are there no examples of it being referred to as such officially? Or perhaps you can show us where it is referred to as such - that would settle the disagreement, surely?

    1. Dear Anonymous at 10:34 am,

      See the following weblink:

    2. Dear Diana, thankyou for the link, but it does not answer the question at all.

      Which is to say why is the legal name for the Archbishop always written as "Archbishop of Agana, a corporation sole, Anthony Sablan Apuron (etc) incumbent", whereas the RMS is ALWAYS written as "Redemptoris Mater Archdiocesan Seminary (etc)a non profit corporation"?

    3. Dear Anonymous at 3:33 pm,

      It is for the same reason why St. John's Seminary is a corporation sole and is always written as "St. John's Seminary" and the Archbishop of Los Angeles is written as "Archbishop of Los Angeles, a corporation sole."