Tuesday, July 11, 2017

My Response

An anonymous poster wrote the following comment, which can be found here.  The poster's comment are in red while mine are in black.  

Diana, your "reality" is a pagan reality. Pagan people face those sins and vices. We Catholics don't. 
Anonymous, your reality is a fantasy world that does not exist. The reality in Guam is that there is a high divorce and suicide rate. It is also a reality that those who are committing divorce and suicide include Catholics. It is a reality that women in Guam are committing abortions. A majority of these women are Chamorros and also Catholic. It is a reality that there are many couples living together outside the boundary of marriage. And many of these people are Catholics. To say that only pagans face sins and vices is a delusion and prejudice.
Furthermore, if Catholics do not face sin and vices (as you claimed) then why did Christ institute the Sacrament of Reconciliation?  What was the purpose of confession if Catholics do not face sin and vices?   
This is a moral issue running very deep in our soul and faith life. When we misstep, we go to the confessional. We don't dwell in those sins and vices but repent and overcome. You, however, tell people who dwell in these sins and vices that they are okay 
I find it interesting that instead of "sin", you say "misstep." Let us stay away from political correctness and call it for what it really is.....a SIN.  Adultery is not a misstep.  It is a SIN.  Lustful thoughts and a wandering eye away from your spouse is not a misstep.  It is a SIN.  And the fact that you go to confession indicates that you sin. 
The NCW never told those people who dwell in sin and vices that they are okay. We tell them that like all of us they are sinners and in need of repentance. 
You at the NCW tell them that we are all sinners, so they don't need to repent. 
See my last response above.  The NCW teaches that we are all sinners and in need of repentance.  Our statutes even mention confession and penance and the Sacrament of Reconciliation (See Article 14 in the Statutes of the Neocatechumenal Way).  
This is moral relativism that you infuse as "Catholic" teaching.  But is it Catholic?
Moral relativisim is defined as "the view that ethical standards, morality, and positions of right or wrong are culturally based and therefore subject to a person's individual choice. We can all decide what is right for ourselves. You decide what's right for you, and I'll decide what's right for me. Moral relativism says, "It's true for me, if I believe it." This is very far from what the NCW teaches. 
If you don't go to confession at least once a year then you are no Catholic. If you don't repent your sin at the confessional, then you commit sacrilege and your absolution is invalid. Then you are even less Catholic. Then you are a sinner. This is how it works in our Catholic faith. How does it work at your NCW?
In the NCW, we hold confessions four to six times a year. Confession becomes six times a year when we include the annual convivience held in October and the annual transmittal.  Our catechists also told us that we should immediately go to confession if we commit a mortal sin.  We cannot receive the Body and Blood of Christ if we are in a state of mortal sin.  
According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church , all Catholics must acknowledge that they are sinners. However, you claimed that you do not face any sins.  So, based on your standard, how are you Catholic if you do not acknowledge that you are a sinner?   
CCC 827 .......All members of the Church, including her ministers, must acknowledge that they are sinners.......
As a matter of fact, even the saints acknowledged that they are sinners. St. Mother Teresa admitted that she is a sinner.  According to Mother Teresa:
"I, Mother Teresa, am a sinner.  We are all sinners. And we all need God's mercy."

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  1. Moral relativism is when you place morally qualified things in unqualified context. Dwelling in sin and vices is morally qualified as wrong. Saying that pagans and Catholics are the same kind of sinners is morally unqualified.

    Moral qualification is what separates good from wrong. Qualification separates. Morally unqualified when you unify everyone in the same kind of sinfulness. What is unqualified will unify.

    When king David sinned against God by Bathsheba he did not unify himself with everyone else through his sin. He separated himself calling himself a sinner. When you unify, you lie. When you separate, you make a difference.

    Moral relativism would see the Catholic Mother Teresa the same sinner as a pagan ISIS warrior who beheads others for fun. But Catholics and pagans are not the same and cannot be the same. As Catholics we overcome original sin in baptism. Pagans dwell in their sins and vices. This makes the difference, dear Diana.

    1. Dear Anonymous at 8:41 am,

      I used a website on moral relativism to define "moral relativism." What source did you use? A sin is a sin is a sin. Adultery is a sin regardless of who commits it. You equate St. Mother Teresa to Isis????

    2. Is everyone "equally" sinful?

    3. Diana, it is you who are blind to the distinction between pagans and Catholic. You unify all mankind into one big bowl of sinners. You say we are all sinners, because you do not grasp the difference between original sin and everyday sin. You erase the separation line between pagan and Catholic.

      When you say this, it is you who equate the murderous ISIS warrior with our beloved saint Mother Teresa. She said she is a sinner because of the weights of the original sin. We are all free of the original sin by baptism. But the weight is still on us. We cannot love all human beings, our capacities are limited. Even the holy Mother was not able to care for all the poorest of the poor, only a handful of them. This is out limitation, the weight of our original sin.

      It is you who equate Mother Teresa with the ISIS warrior and other pagan people who dwell in sin and vices. St. Paul warns us Catholics not to live like the pagans. There is a separation between the pagan and the Catholic, the sinner and the believer.

      You interpretation of being a sinner is wrong. Your members go out to give testimony and brag about their sins and vices. Rather they should be hiding in silence and giving thanks to God that He had mercy on them and forgave their sin in holy sacrament.

      Your moral relativism is not coming from definition books. It is coming from NCW teaching. You have never been able to justify your stance of interfering with other people's business. You judge and pontificate with a visible sign of feeling superior. But are you really superior or only proud?

      You allow yourself to do things that you want to deny from others. You think of yourself very high while you think of others very low. This is moral relativism. You do not share substance, you share superficial nothingness. Even you Jesus is pale and shadowy. Your Holy Spirit is more like rolling dice that burning fire.

      Your pontification becomes void instantly, when you make concealed judgment over others while you deny making judgment at all. Yes, you do this every day. You jump on Archbishop Hon and Archbishop Byrnes as soon as they say anything critical about the NCW. The same time you praise Apuron as the vicar of Christ on island. You even judge those, whose comments you throw away. Why are you so afraid of honesty and the truth?

    4. 4:08pm:

      You're being very rude and judgmental. I've been to a few of the Catechesis sessions held by the NCW and I've heard one short testimony at the Cathedral earlier this year. I also know some people who walk in the NCW or are former members. From my own personal experience, it does not appear that they are bragging about their sin and vices but sharing how God has worked in their lives.

      Also, could you explain what you mean by hiding in silence and giving thanks? I'm assuming you mean through prayer, but I think you have more to say in regards to that. If so, could you explain?

      While I know prayer is good, if you have had a personal experience of God's love and mercy in your life, why wouldn't you want to share that with others in the form of a testimony? What is wrong with someone going out and telling other people about how God has worked in their life and continues to work in their lives? Is there any harm to that?

    5. Yes, my friends, it is none of your business. Go and find Jesus. He is in the Bible. Period.

    6. Dear Anonymous at 4:08 PM,

      Yes, we are all sinners. Who is not guilty of at least one of the 7 capital sins - pride, greed, gluttony, lust, sloth, envy, anger?

      I do not believe giving testimony is bragging about one's sins and vices. These testimonies are experiences of God working in people's lives. Family and friends who knows them well, see the transformation. What better way to show that God exists?

      Matthew 28:18-20 Then Jesus approached and said to them, “All power in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, until the end of the age.”

      Isn't giving testimony one way to fulfill Jesus' command? Jesus promised to be with us always until the end of age when we proclaim and give testimony.

    7. You have to teach what Jesus commanded. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. When you brag about your deeds of misdeeds, you cut out the teaching of Jesus and replace it with your own.

  2. we have always followed due process rule of law. We have followed Rome. We will continue to follow Rome. Once Rome gives a verdict we will follow. Ministry of Jesus Christ continues regardless of a guilty or non guilty verdict.

  3. Evidence against Archbishop Apuron is weak.
    Nearly impossible for him to have a fair due process system.
    Given varying weakness flaws involved guilty / not guilty verdict damages the Curia Vatican
    Further to deliberation inconclusive case study

  4. OK....pagans and Catholics you say are not of the same level of spiritual enlightenment.

    Lets have Deacon sell his earthly goods; house; car...etc and follow the family in missions to the ends of the world proclaiming the WORD of God.

    Living only by the grace of God.

    Step forward.....God is calling

    that is of course if you are listening and not afraid.

    2nd scrutiny of the NCW prepares the way.

  5. An old boys club forming.
    Tim Rohr assigned to be real estate agent for archdiocesan property.

  6. All about gaining money from Archdiocese.Money money money.

  7. He calls for this is the greatest achievement a human can possibly attain to. So, why would anyone expect such unspeakable glory and greatness should be so cheaply gained by no more than a simple profession and symbolic gesture?

    How many pagans do not go to church let alone contribute to the first collection?

    and how many so called Catholic's have left the Mass before the second collection?

    Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness.’…