I found this on the internet :
If the Devil were to write his "Beatitudes", they would probably go something like this:
Blessed are those who are too tired, too busy, too distracted to spend an hour once a week with their fellow Christians in church. They are my best workers.
Blessed are those Christians who wait to be asked and expect to be thanked. I can use them.
Blessed are the touchy, with a bit of luck they may stop going to community. They are my missionaries.
Blessed are those who are very religious but get on everyone's nerves. They are mine forever.
Blessed are the troublemakers. They shall be called my children.
Blessed are those who have no time to pray. They are easy prey for me.
Blessed are the gossipers for they are my secret agents.
Blessed are those critical of church leadership, for they shall inherit a place with me in my fate.
Blessed are the complainers. I'm all ears for them.
"Blessed are the touchy, with a bit of luck they may stop going to community." You replaced "Church" with "community". Not at all unexpected I suppose, but devious nonetheless.
ReplyDeleteDear Anonymous at 3:58 p.m.,
DeleteThe Hebrew word for community is "edah." It means "congregation" or "assembly." And every parish has a community.
Jerimiah 30:20 Their children will be as in days of old, and their community will be established before me; I will punish all who oppress them.
What is devious about changing ‘church’ to community? There are different versions of these devils’ “beatitudes”. The problem is that a suspecting mind questions everything. They are even censuring the decision of Archbishop to put a statue of the Nina Maria for the feast of the Sweet Name of Mary. They are suggesting that it is part of the “Neo takeover”. Speaking of tunnel vision…
ReplyDeleteThanks, please post a link to a "different version" of these devil's "beatitudes" that say community rather than Church.
Delete"The problem is that a suspecting mind questions everything"
DeleteQuestions are bad, then? Is that a precept of the community?
Dear Aonymous at 4:02 pm,
DeleteQuestions are not bad. In fact, whenever I have a question, I always call my catechists to get clarification.
Anon at 9:43. We all know that if a NCW member stops attending the community, they are often said to be deceived by the devil and walking the path perdition, even if they continue to be engaged with the parish and attend "ordinary" Mass. That is why changing the word 'Church' to the word 'community' is devious. Because it implies what we already know you do and that is look down upon the ordinary non-neo churchgoer, and inflate the sense of the NCW community in comparison.
DeleteDear Anonymous at 1:59 pm,
DeleteThese are semantics. The Catholic Church uses both community and church. It is understood that the parish is also a community of believers. You do the same thing with Mass and Eucharist. You make a big deal about the names "Mass" and "Eucharist". The Catholic Church uses both terms.
Diana @ 1:59. The problem is not that the Catholic Church uses both terms. The problem is that the NCW does not
DeleteDear Anonymous at 4:49 pm,
DeleteI use both terms, and no one has told me not to. I even use the word "priest" rather than presbyter. You can even see that in my blog.
Why, then change "Church" to "community"?
DeleteDear Anonymous at 9:33 pm,
DeleteRead the post again. The words "church" and "community" are both in the post. As I said, you only look at semantics.
Diana, you forgot some of the Devil's Beatitudes!
ReplyDeleteBlessed are those who are blindly obedient, they are marching under the same Nazi flag with me!
Blessed are those who force others to act against their conscience, they are my pals forever!
Blessed are those without ethical discernment, they'll form my army of evil empowerment!
Blessed are those who oppose liberation, they'll be caged to serve as my pets!
Blessed are those who distort the Bible, they will burn with me in eternal bliss!
Dear voice of faith.
DeleteI already told you so many times that one must always obey the Bishop unless the Bishop tells you to break one of the Ten Commandments. To put it in simple terms, if the Bishop tells you to murder someone, then you can disobey. Did the Archbishop tell anyone to murder, steal, commit, or commit adultery? You need to discern on this fact.
The Bible screams of obedience. In the Holy Bible children are told to obey their parents. The Holy Bible also says that congregations are to obey their Bishops. It also says that slaves are to obey their masters. God put all of us under authority so we can learn obedience (which is linked to humility). After all, Christ submitted Himself to His mother Mary, His stepfather Joseph, and God our Father.
God put all of us under some authority to prepare us for His Kingdom. Do you honestly think that you can do whatever you desire in God's Kingdom??? Did you not know that when Satan wanted to sit on God's throne, he was cast out of Heaven??? In Heaven, God is the ruler, and everyone follows Him. There is no democracy in Heaven. You are not going to elect anyone to the throne of God. Yes, there is liberation in Heaven, but it is not the kind of liberation you think, where you can do whatever you desire. It is a liberation that conforms us to God's will so that we become like Christ.
Diana, you are so presumptuous! You have no idea what kind of liberation I am talking about. Perhaps you have never been a Liberation Queen in Guam, this is your problem? Lol. Then you would know what is it when your soul is truly liberated by God!
DeleteJewish theologian, our elder brothers in faith as Pope John Paul 2 said, say that blind obedience sent millions of Jews into the gas chambers in Europe! You just cannot think the same way about God after the Holocaust as before. Yes, Nazi concentration camp capos defended themselves after WW2 claiming they were only obedient to military command! Do you understand that, Diana? In many countries Catholic clergy was so "obedient" that they did not help the Jews to survive, but turned cold shoulder. Respect to those who are the exceptions. Did the Pope call on for protecting the chosen people of God? Please, answer this question. Now, do you understand what is discernment, dear Diana?!
Obedience without moral discernment and without ethical choice is not only killing your own soul, it also kills others. It is a murder. You claim Abraham believed that Isaac would be raised by God if he murders him as a sacrifice. What do you base your claim on, Diana? There no such thing in the Bible! Abraham had never believed in resurrection, because he had no understanding what that would mean. You make claims against the Scriptures, Diana. You distort what is there. Chuck White is right to say that making non-Biblical distortions is a sign of cults.
It was also claimed that Isaac was an "idol" to Abraham. Where is this written in the Holy Book, please?! If Isaac would have been an idol to Abraham, then Abraham would not have wanted to sacrifice him, Isaac, but he would have made a sacrifice FOR him. Because you do not sacrifice an idol, but you make sacrifice to an idol! This is how idol is understood in the Bible. You see, these views are in total conflict with what we read in the Holy Scriptures. Tell me, pray, who is responsible for spreading anti-Biblical views on you blog, dear Diana?
Dear voice of faith,
DeleteAGAIN, how many times do I have to tell you that the Catholic Church teaches obedience EXCEPT where it goes against the moral code such as murder, stealing adultery, etc.
What part in that above sentence do you not comprehend????
Ha-ha, "voice", what the hell are you talking about? Are you out of your mind? The Bible talks very clearly about obedience. Yes, we do have discernment, because we have Jesus! Whoever has the Lord, has the discernment also. Would you dare to say Jesus did not have it? You see you would not, I am so sure! Have you ever read Kierkegaard's book Fear and Trembling? If you have never read it, please do not say a word because you are so ignorant! Yes, he was a Protestant but a smart one. So what? He just hit the nail right on the head about Abraham.
DeleteWe see you are just the voice of Tim Rohr, you repeat what he tells you. Your "liberation" is a snake sneaking among the rabbit to catch them one by one. You should be ashamed! The liberalism you preach is not even Christian. I am surprised Tim would send you here. Is there any new business in the horizon that you guys need a liberal jacket for a change?! Ha-ha-ha...
I checked on your Jewish scholar. Yes, he says what you say about discernment. But he is not even a mainstream scholar. He is very much like a liberal scholar who tries to dissolve the old, traditional framework and moral understanding of the Jewish Scriptures. The majority of Israeli scholars are not exactly liberals. Why don't you rather read them?! Do you have an inclination to liberal views? How about abortion and female ordination in the Church, for example? I would not be surprised if you would say strange things in this regard, as well.
What you do not see is that obedience would completely change the preferences of your soul and emotions. When you disobey, you sell your soul to an idol, thus you become arrogant and egotistic! Your idol has no soul. In contrast, when you learn to obey you give up your arrogance and egotism. You learn to be submissive. The Bible is very clear that an arrogant soul will be driven away from heaven, but a submissive soul is led straight to God. When you are submissive you allow God to act in the world. It doesn't matter how much you disagree or how much your heart is resisting submission. You have to overcome this resistance and accept the submissiveness of your soul as a gift from God. Because this gift will lead you to Him.
Every Neocat disobeys whenever they take communion in the NCW manner. Why do you not overcome this resistance and accept the submissiveness of your soul as a gift from God. Because Kiko says its ok?
DeleteDear Anonymou at 4:12 p.m.,
DeleteThe NCW is not in disobedience whenever we receive Holy Communion. As I said, we have the permission of the Pope. If you do not believe, then write to Rome and get clarification from them.
Rome has already clarified this in your statutes, Article 13, footnote 49. You are not allowed to do as you do, but you do it anyway. The definition of disobedience.
DeleteSo I can show you your own statutes; you can show me nothing in writing, and I'm meant to believe you!?
Dear Anonymous at 2:01 pm,
DeleteAccording to Article 13, footnote 49, we are to receive the Body of Christ standing. We do receive the Body of Christ standing. The difference is how you interpret "receiving." There are only two ways to receive the Body of Christ......1) by hand and 2) by tongue. It does not matter that we consume the Body of Christ sitting down because that was how it was done in the primitive Church.
Says you. By "receive", the Church means, and has always meant, receiving Christ. You don't "receive Christ" without consuming. What was that about semantics? Just admit you are disobedient and save everyone the bother.
DeleteDear Anonymous at 4:51 pm,
DeleteWe receive Christ because we receive His Body standing. We become ONE with Christ after consuming His Body.
Jesus died for our sins, not to take away our minds.
ReplyDeleteDear Isaias,
DeleteThe Bible screams of obedience. It tells children to obey their parents. It tells congregations to obey their Bishops. It tells slaves to obey their masters. The reason why God put us all under some kind of authority to obey is to prepare us for God's Kingdom. Did you honestly think that you can do whatever you want in Heaven???? God did not create a democracy in His Kingdom. In Heaven, God is the ruler and everyone obeys His rule. When Satan wanted to sit on God's throne, he was kicked out of Heaven.
You are doing a great job, Diana. Our only weapons are the truth and what the Church teaches. This is more than enough. And God, who sees what we do in secret, will reward you!. And His reward is out of this world!!
DeleteDiana -- I think the problem is that you read the Bible and take every word literally. If this was the case, Jesus wouldn't have spoken in parables. That is why we have our priests who have gone through many years of schooling on the Catholic Church's teachings to be the best conveyers of the Word instead of a woman walker in the Way and hides behind a pseudonym.
DeleteDear Anonymous at 10:33 p.m.,
DeleteI do not take everything in the Bible literally. I also read the Bible in a spiritual sense.
We are not talking about heaven Diana but the here and now. I will not obey like Jesus to people in authority ecclesial or state the same as Jesus did.
ReplyDeleteI say that Jesus was, according to the testimonies of the gospels, a criminal: not a mere nonconformist, not just a protester, more than a militant, not only a dissident, not simply a dissenter, but a criminal. More than that, as the Luke passage emphasizes [Lk. 23.1-2], from the point of view of the State and of the ecclesiastical authorities as well--from the view of the establishment--Jesus was the most dangerous and reprehensible sort of criminal. He was found as one "perverting [the] nation," and "forbidding...tribute" to the State. One translation names Jesus as a seditionist. In a congressman's jargon, Jesus was a subversive. He was a criminal revolutionary--not one who philosophized about revolution, not a rhetorical revolutionary (such as we hear much nowadays in America), but rather one whose existence threatened the nation in a revolutionary way.
http://experimentaltheology.blogspot.com/
Jesus Christ was, so far as the established authorities and, in the end, so far as the people were concerned, the most loathsome of criminals. And He was so accused, and He was so condemned, and as such He was executed in an aptly ignominious way.
...[Churchfolk] have been brought up to suppose that, in His arrest, trial, and conviction, Jesus was innocent. There is this notion that Jesus was fingered and betrayed by Judas, deserted by His other disciples, and then falsely accused, denied due process of law, and unjustly put to death. Many of us have been taught--wrongly, if the New Testament is credible--to regard Jesus as an ingenuous and hapless victim of a gross miscarriage of justice. But the truth is: He was guilty. Never has a man been apprehended, accused, tried, convicted, sentenced, and executed of whom it may be more certainly avowed: He was guilty.
Dear Isaias Ginson,
Delete1. You stated, " I will not obey like Jesus to people in authority ecclesial or state the same as Jesus did."
Yet, Jesus is our role model and He set the example for us to follow.
2. You also stated, " He was found as one "perverting [the] nation," and "forbidding...tribute" to the State."
This is false. Christ paid taxes and encouraged everyone to give to the state what belongs to the state and to give what belongs to God.
3. You stated: "I say that Jesus was, according to the testimonies of the gospels, a criminal: not a mere nonconformist, not just a protester, more than a militant, not only a dissident, not simply a dissenter, but a criminal."
Christ was NEVER a criminal. He was actually an innocent man who was treated as a criminal due to false charges that were laid against Him.
4. Then you go on to say: " ...[Churchfolk] have been brought up to suppose that, in His arrest, trial, and conviction, Jesus was innocent. There is this notion that Jesus was fingered and betrayed by Judas, deserted by His other disciples, and then falsely accused, denied due process of law, and unjustly put to death. Many of us have been taught--wrongly, if the New Testament is credible--to regard Jesus as an ingenuous and hapless victim of a gross miscarriage of justice. But the truth is: He was guilty."
What is your religion??
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. Amazing how some people do not get it!
ReplyDeleteChrist as king means Man no more enslaved to institutions, no longer a pawn of technologies, no mere servant of the State or of any other authority, no incapacitated victim of a damaged environment. Christ as King means Man free from bondage to ideologies and institutions, free from revolutionary causes as well, free from idolatry of Caesar, and, not the least of it free from religion which tries to disguise such slaveries as virtuous, free from all these and all similar claims which really only conceal death--only the dehumanization of life--for all.
ReplyDeleteChrist as king means Man no more enslaved to institutions, no longer a pawn of technologies, no mere servant of the State or of any other authority, no incapacitated victim of a damaged environment. Christ as King means Man free from bondage to ideologies and institutions, free from revolutionary causes as well, free from idolatry of Caesar, and, not the least of it free from religion which tries to disguise such slaveries as virtuous, free from all these and all similar claims which really only conceal death--only the dehumanization of life--for all.
Christ as king means Man no more enslaved to institutions, no longer a pawn of technologies, no mere servant of the State or of any other authority, no incapacitated victim of a damaged environment. Christ as King means Man free from bondage to ideologies and institutions, free from revolutionary causes as well, free from idolatry of Caesar, and, not the least of it free from religion which tries to disguise such slaveries as virtuous, free from all these and all similar claims which really only conceal death--only the dehumanization of life--for all.
experimentaltheology.blogspot.com
Experimental Theology???? You are not Catholic, are you?
DeleteDiana, some geek found your blog to make experiments and some fun to entertain himself.
DeleteDiana, Which book in the Scriptures is known as the book of obedience?
DeleteDear Anonymous at 2:46 p.m.,
DeleteI never mention a book of obedience. I said the Holy Bible screams of obedience.
Ephesians 6:1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right.
Colossians 3:20 Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord.
Colossians 3:22 Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God:
Hebrews 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.
Ephesians 6:5 Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ;
Titus 2:5 To be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed.
Titus 2:9 Exhort servants to be obedient unto their own masters, and to please them well in all things; not answering again;
Ephesians 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
Colossians 3:18 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
1 Peter 2:13 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;
1 Peter 5:5 Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble.
Diana,
ReplyDeleteI am Catholic, but not Roman anymore...22 years in the community ( Reditio last scrutiny 1997) itenerant 5 years, seminarian RMS '90 Newark, classmate of your first Rector Raymond. In short i SEE YOU.
Dear Isaias,
DeleteThe Catholic Church consist of the Latin-rite Church and the Eastern-rite Church. The fact that you believe that Christ was a criminal and not innocent is not Catholic. In fact, it is not even Christian. All Christians (Catholics, Protestants, and Orthodox) believe that Jesus was not guilty of any crime.
Whatever religion you now have, it is not Catholic. I have been walking for only 8 years, but I do not believe the things you do. Despite that you were in the community for 22 years, you did not pick up these beliefs from the NCW. You got it somewhere else.
Diana, I guess what Isaias wants to say is that according to the Jewish Law, Jesus was guilty on several accounts. In Mark 2:27 Jesus said to them, "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath." So He preached that man can override the Sabbath Law! It was definitely against the view at the time, no question about it. That is why many Jews became angry with Him. I am kinda interested in Isaias, would like to know more what is it like walking for about 22 years and then talking about "experimental" theology. What have you been doing since 1997, Isaias?
DeleteDiana, you do not have to believe what i believe and neither do I. It was clear from the way Jesus was treated, He was so accused, and He was so condemned, and as such He was executed in an aptly ignominious way.
DeleteThat was the problem during my years with the Community, they cannot tolerate, not open to discussion and conversation and they always throw in the Obedience card...finally i just had to walked away...
Dear Isaias,
DeleteYou can believe in whatever you want to believe. I also have a great respect for freedom of religion. However, the things you believe about Jesus being guilty of crime and not innocent is not Christian.
Earnie is correct that the Jewish Pharisees at that time believed that Jesus was guilty of crimes. According to them, Christ broke the Sabbath law and committed blasphemy by claiming to be God. Christians, on the other hand, believed that Christ broke no laws and committed no sins. By claiming to be God, Christ spoke the truth, and the Jewish Pharisees were ignorant of the spirit of the law.
Jesus was crucified. Of course Jesus was considered to be a criminal.
DeleteJesus was actually a criminal. Jesus was--really, truly--a political threat and a disturber of the peace. Consequently, the civil and religious authorities did exactly the right thing.
experimentaltheology
isalas ginson September 17 2014 2:27
Deleteyou are prepared and understand the laws of men....there is truth in what you say as it applies to life on earth. I hope you are equally prepared to stand in the court of our Father in heaven because the man you call a criminal today...standing next to you today, may not be at your side at your tomorrow.
Anonymous September 16, 2014 at 2:46.....in answer to your question of OBEDIENCE
ReplyDeleteOBEDIENCE
I. Representative Biblical references to "obedience"
A. Old Testament - Heb. word shama - "to hear, listen, obey"
Exod. 19:5 - "if you obey My voice ..., you shall be My possession"
Exod. 24:7 - "All that the Lord has spoken we will do; we will be obedient"
Deut. 6:4 - "Hear, O Israel, the Lord your God is one"
Deut. 11:13 - "if you listen obediently to My commandments"
I Sam. 15:22 - "to obey is better than sacrifice"
Ps. 81:11 - "My people did not listen to My voice; Israel did not obey Me"
B. New Testament
1. Greek word hupakouo - "to listen under, to obey;" opposite is parakouo - "to listen around, beside, disobedience" (cf. Rom. 5:19)
Rom. 1:5 - "obedience of faith among the Gentiles"
Rom. 16:26 - "obedience of faith"
II Cor. 10:5 -"taking every thought captive to the obedience of Christ"
II Thess. 1:8 - "those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus"
Heb. 5:9 - "He became to all who obey Him the source of salvation"
I Pet. 1:2 - "that you may obey Jesus Christ"
I Pet. 1:14 - "As obedient children...be holy"
I Pet. 1:22 - "you have in obedience to the truth purified your souls"
2. Greek words peitho and peitharcheo - "to persuade, convince;" opposite is apeitheo - "unconvinced, disobedient" (cf. Eph. 2:2; 5:6)
Acts 5:29 - "we must obey God rather than men"
Acts 5:32 - "the Spirit whom God has given to those who obey Him"
Rom. 2:8 - "do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness"
Gal. 5:7 - "who hindered you from obeying the truth?"
II. Defining "obedience"
A. Base words
1. English word "obedience"
a. Etymology - Latin oboedire - ob = towards; oedire = "to hear"
b. Meaning: "to hear or listen towards"
c. Popular English usage: "to follow, heed, comply with commands or injunctions within a sphere of jurisdiction."
2. Hebrew word shama - "to hear, listen; obey"
3. Greek word hupakouo - "to listen under; obey"
4. Old English word herknen ("hearken"); both hear and obey
B. Change in context of meaning
1. Relational context
a. All of the base words have a personal/relational context
b. Obedience pertains to listening to (and responding to) God, Moses, prophets, Jesus, Paul, parents, etc.
2. Legal context
a. Nowhere in the New Testament are the words for "obedience" or "disobedience" used in direct connection with the Law or any corpus of behavioral rules and regulations. (cf. Isa. 42:24)
b. Yet, "obedience" developed a Law-based interpretation
(1) rule-keeping
(2) commandment compliance
(3) performance according to precepts
(4) "works"
Anonymous September 16, 2014 at 2:46 PM.......some more
ReplyDeleteIII. Historical perspectives
A. Greek perspective
1. Primary emphasis on seeing spiritual things rather than hearing (see mysteries, visions)
2. Hear or obey yourself; your reason, thoughts, feelings
B. Hebrew perspective
1. Emphasis on hearing God rather than seeing God
2. Developed into
a. Historical remembrance of having heard God
b. Futuristic expectation of seeing God (Isa. 60:4,5)
3. Prophetic rebuke for failure to hear, listen, or obey
4. Rabbinical emphasis on legalistic hearing/obeying the Law
C. Christian perspective
1. Radically new meaning of "obedience" in new covenant
2. Relational context of obedience becomes ontological
3. The Word to be heard/obeyed is a Person (Jn. 1:1,14)
4. Receptivity of Christ is the "obedience of faith" (Rom. 1:5; 16:26)
5. Indwelling presence of Spirit of Christ is...
a. "law written in our hearts" - Heb. 8:10; 10:16; Jere. 31:33
b. basis of revelation - Phil. 3:15
c. dynamic for expressing what God wants to do in us
6. The Christian individual is still responsible...
a. to listen in order to discern what Christ wants to do
b. to be convinced and persuaded that what he has heard from Christ is what God wants to be and do
IV. The historical obedience of Jesus Christ
Heb. 5:8 - "He learned obedience from the things which He suffered"
Phil. 2:8 - "He humbled Himself becoming obedient to death, even death on a cross"
Rom. 5:19 - "through the obedience of the One, the many will be made righteous"
A. Jesus' obedience was not...
1. legalistic compliance with Law; keeping the rules
2. precise performance of a programmed plan; doing the dictates
B. Jesus lived by the obedience of faith
1. listened to God through trials, hardships, suffering
2. continued to listen to God unto death on a cross
3. such listening to God unto death allowed Him to take our death and invest His life in us.
V. Obedience in the Christian life.
A. Listening
1. We "listen under" the direction of God's Spirit
2. "My sheep hear My voice" - Jn. 10:27
3. We are persuaded/convinced we have heard what He wants to do
B. Receptivity
1. "Obedience of faith" - Rom. 1:5; 16:26
2. Our receptivity of His activity
3. He is the dynamic of His own demands
C. Spontaneity
1. Not proceduralized external actions of obedience
2. Branch obeys the Vine (Jn. 15:1-11). To abide is to obey.
D. Liberty
1. Christians are free to obey. Not slaves to sin.
2. We are most free when we obey. Free to be man as God intended.
Thank you Anon @ 9:41 pm. This line says it all: Christians are free to obey. Not slaves to sin!
DeleteDear Anonymous at 4:24 am,
DeleteAnd when you disobey, you become a slave to sin.
Dear Diana,
ReplyDeleteI don't expect you to publish this....
Doesn't the devil fear blessings? .
Anyways, I guess your intention is to show Satan's preference for hypocrites.
So here's the last one for you, which you forgot to mention, although I wouldn't say Blessed since blessed would naturally mean, of God or to be made holy.
The right word would be Cursed?
So here's one for you.
Cursed be the racist man who convinces himself he is walking in the way of Christ.
Dear Anonymous at 12:03 pm,
DeleteAccording to Dictionary.com, "bless" also means to condemn or curse. When the devil blesses, he is actually condemning or cursing the person.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bless?s=t
Doot? Are you drunk ? click on that link and it mentions nothing about cursing.
DeleteWhen you bless someone, you protect them from evil.
Dear Anonymous at 10:50 p.m.,
DeletePut on your glasses so you can see better. Here let me help you. Below is what I copied and pasted from Dictionary.com on the word "bless." Read NUMBER 6, but with your glasses on.
1. to consecrate or sanctify by a religious rite; make or pronounce holy.
2. to request of God the bestowal of divine favor on:
"Bless this house."
3. to bestow good of any kind upon:
"a nation blessed with peace."
4. to extol as holy; glorify:
"Bless the name of the Lord."
5. to protect or guard from evil (usually used interjectionally):
"Bless you! Bless your innocent little heart!"
6. to condemn or curse:
"I'll be blessed if I can see your reasoning. Bless me if it isn't my old friend!"
7. to make the sign of the cross over or upon:
"The Pope blessed the multitude."
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bless?s=t
I checked this pos of anonymous, It was copied from http://www.christinyou.net/pages/obedience.html Obedience to Church authority is linked with faith. Anyone who does not have faith finds it difficult to obey.
ReplyDeleteJesus' grace is sufficient. I've been reading both blogs (yours & Tim's) Anti & Pro Neo/Anti & Pro Catholics/Anti & Pro Roman Catholics......both sides are displaying non-forgiving, condemning and hateful behavior. Both sides are judging each other......It's sad to watch BOTH sides. Jesus' grace is sufficient.
ReplyDeleteDear Anonymous at 9:24 a.m.,
DeleteWhat hateful behavior do you see on this blog? Could you be more specific?