It has been reported that the problems we have here in Guam are to be resolved by us rather than by Archbishop Krebs or the nuncio. Perhaps, we can start with the priests who are rebelling against the Archbishop.
Solution #1: Priests made a vow of obedience to the Archbishop; therefore, they should cease all rebellion and start committing to their vow of obedience to the Archbishop with the faith and trust that God is leading the Archbishop just as He leads the Pope.
Solution #2: To those priests who feel that the Archbishop gives more attention to the RMS priests - here is a solution: Become a "neo-priest". Then you can get the attention from the Archbishop all you want since that is your desire anyway. If your answer is no to being a neo-priest, then see Solution #1.
As for the lay faithful who are rebelling against the Archbishop:
Solution #1: Obey and respect your Church leaders, whom Christ has placed under authority and recognize that anyone who tells you to go against your Church leader is already going against the Catholic Church.
Solution #2: If you cannot trust your Church leader (whether it be the Pope or Archbishop), then pray to God to give you faith.
Put your name on this or get lost Diana.
ReplyDeleteOh dear Anonymous at 11:27 a.m.,
DeleteWhat ails you on the inside?
How do you know this has been reported?
ReplyDeleteWas told by my pastor that there is a gag order on the meeting with the Nuncio.
Dear Anonymous at 9:00 p.m.,
DeleteIt is difficult to keep it a secret when everyone in the jungle is talking about it.
Diana, wanted to say this for a long time ...and if you are Adrian, God help me....but shut up, once and for all. Just shut the hell up.
ReplyDeleteDear Anonymous at 1:44 a.m.,
DeleteI will not shut up Besides, this is NOT the first time I have written about obedience. The priest made a vow of obedience to the Archbishop. Are you a priest?? Are you one of those rebelling priests.........because if you are, I have a lot more to say to you!
And as I said in one of my posts, when Archbishop Krebs visit our island, God will put into place what He wants in place.
Anon 1:44 AM repent and return to God. Your heart is plagued with hate. Your not doing anything good for yourself.
DeleteCome on, Anon. 1:44, if Diana were Adrian, he/she would know that diocesan clerics do not take a "vow" of obedience, they promise obedience to the Ordinary and his successors.
DeleteI think Diana's posts are clumsy but genuine.
Dear Anonymous at 2:17 p.m.,
DeleteAnd because of clumsy errors like that, it shows that I am not a priest. I never claimed to be one, but have often been accused of being one. :)
Anon 2:17PM I have no idea what are you trying to say.
DeleteSo you still read JW?
ReplyDeleteDear Anonymous at 7:40 a.m.,
DeleteFrom time to time, I would stop by there and read only his latest blog. But if his latest is the Gogifan case, the RMS seminary, or the financial report, I do not bother to read it because it is the same story told over and over.
We just got a solution by the visit of the Nuncio. This event led to the escalation of plots, conspirations and outright betrayals that have been seen for a while already at Jungle Watch.
ReplyDeleteFinally, Tim Rohr walked voluntarily into the trap he had built for a year and placed his own neck into the hook. Well, Tim, it is too bad. Game is over for you. When you break koinonia with clergy by directly and blatantly disobeying the Nuncio then you are irrevocably off the bandwagon on the Catholic Church. Is this clear for you, Mr Rohr? This is not a silly game in your sand box anymore... it is about unwisely discrediting the Nuncio by your irresponsible action!
Now you try to crucify the messenger who told you the message of the Holy Order of the Church. What is this for, Tim?? Your bitter anger and revengeful attacks won't help you any bit. The sad part is that you obviously take down your Jungle Watch followers, the whole gang in a deadly embrace with you. But Tim, there are people of good will who trusted you. What about them now? Are you ready to take responsibility for them and for this evil situation you created for Guamanian Catholics, Tim...?!
Dear Anonymous at 10:02 a.m.,
DeleteYour comment is obviously addressed to Tim Rohr, which should be published in the jungle, but I will allow it here. His followers also read my blog, and they will most likely copy and paste your comment in his blog.
Pontifical Delegate stated not to pay any attention to Jungle Watch blog ( This is true, it came from the horses mouth) . He said is not Catholic Education info but a hate blog. He also said in Germany is far worst. We are all blessed we are not in El Salvador like what happen to Archbishop Oscar Romero. Thanks be to God.
ReplyDeleteDear Anonymous at 11:36 a.m.,
DeleteI was not in any of the meetings with Archbishop Krebs, but if he said this.....I agree with him in that it is a "hate" blog. In fact, I actually said it was a hate blog a few months ago and even called it "anti-Catholic."
Diana not"IF" he did said it.
ReplyDeleteDear Anonymous at 12:58 p.m.,
DeleteYou are correct. You were there and heard it.
Diana what really hurts the most is not the one who disagree with the Archbishop. The individual who use to be on the way who bashes it and maligned it.
ReplyDeleteDear Anonymous at 1:17 p.m.,
DeleteThere are a few former Catholics who do the same thing. These former Catholics usually bash the Church, but their bashing has more to do with themselves rather than the Church. One person I know bashes the Church and blames the Church for her alcoholism. She could not take responsibility for her alcoholism.
The same reason applies to some of those former members who bashed the NCW. It usually have something to do with themselves rather than the NCW. For example, a member would leave because their catechists told him/her to return to his/her spouse and stop committing adultery. The NCW is very strong in family values, and if a member is caught committing adultery, the catechists will tell them to leave the other man or other woman and return to his/her spouse. What the catechists says is something the Catholic Church would also say, but the cheating spouse does not like to hear it. So, they bash the NCW by saying that the NCW is trying to control their life. It was much easier for them to say they left the NCW because the NCW was trying to control their life rather than take responsibility for their sin.