In an interview with Travis Coffman
dated May 17, 2016 (the same day Roy Quintanilla made his allegation), Tim Rohr
explained that the call-in by Mae Ada in the Patti Arroyo talk show last year
started it all. It prompted many alleged victims to call in, which then
motivated him to spend countless hours and hard work searching for these
alleged victims. http://www.pacificnewscenter.com/pnc-k57-interviews/9357 “
Mae Ada, a member of the Laity
Forward Movement, called in the Patti Arroyo talk show on August 19, 2015 and
said that she met a gentleman at a funeral who claimed he was sexually molested
by Archbishop Apuron. http://pacificnewscenter.com/pnc-k57-interviews/item/5225-tim-rohr-with-patti-arroyo Tim Rohr also wrote about Mae Ada’s call in his
Junglewatch blog on the same day. The
post was about Mae’s phone call, but the TITLE of his post was “The Agat boy(s)”. http://www.junglewatch.info/2015/08/the-agat-boys.htm (See the screen shot below.)
- Tim Rohr August 19, 2015 at 5:40 PM
The following is a screen shot taken from Tim's Junglewatch blog:
On the SAME day as Mae Ada’s call-in, Tim wrote: "the FACT that alleged victims (plural) may have confided in Father Jack....". Today, we know that two of the alleged victims, Roy Quintanilla and Walter Denton, both stated that they confided in Father Jack about the sexual abuse. We also know that all the "alleged victims" came from Agat. The evidence showed that Tim already had the "Agat boys" in position ready to do his bidding long before Mae Ada phoned the radio station. On the radio with Patty Arroyo, Tim Rohr feigned a “surprise” and "shock" demeanor when Mae Ada called in, but the comment on his blog showed a planned conspiracy to deliberately remove the Archbishop.
So, why did Tim make a false statement to
Travis Coffman and go through such great lengths to stage this whole affair? Perhaps because there were no victims who came
forward. Even after John Toves came on the scene claiming that his cousin (whom he had never spoken to) was sexually molested by Archbishop Apuron (an allegation he never heard his cousin say), his cousin never came forward. No victim came forward, but Tim needed "victims" in order to remove the Archbishop. Therefore, since no victims came forward, "alleged victims" were sought out.
Tim Rohr already had these "alleged victims" lined up long before Mae Ada called the radio station. All he needed was to convince people that there were "victims" out there who were molested by Archbishop Apuron. Once people heard Mae Ada’s story on the radio, he has planted the seed in people's minds that these "alleged victims existed.
Then on January 22, 2016, he named a specific date: April 15, 1977. See the screen shot below taken from his blog:
Tim Rohr already had these "alleged victims" lined up long before Mae Ada called the radio station. All he needed was to convince people that there were "victims" out there who were molested by Archbishop Apuron. Once people heard Mae Ada’s story on the radio, he has planted the seed in people's minds that these "alleged victims existed.
John
Toves and Walter Denton were next door neighbors in Agat. They grew up together
and graduated from the same FDMS class. Walter Denton was labeled Victim #1 by Tim Rohr despite that
Roy Quintanilla made the first allegation. On a radio talk show with
Jesse Lujan, Denton said that he sent a letter to Archbishop Krebs on August,
2015. Tim Rohr, on the other hand, said that he only did a follow-up on Denton’s letter. http://www.junglewatch.info/search?q=Go+to+hell%2C+Diana
However,
in a recent interview with Jesse Lujan, Tim Rohr claimed that he did
not know Roy Quintanilla or Walter Denton but was working with two other alleged victims who have not yet come forward. He claimed that he did not
seek out Quintanilla and Denton nor did they sought him out. He also said that he
did not aim for any sexual abuse stuff until it came out in the radio (which
would be August 19, 2015). The interview of Tim Rohr with Jesse Lujan is in the
following weblinks:
Contrary
to Tim's statements, he aimed and focused on the sexual allegations because his
goal was to remove Archbishop Apuron. He was
very much involved with Walter Denton’s letter to the Vatican just as he
claimed in his interview with Patti Arroyo on June 10th.. http://www.pacificnewscenter.com/pnc-k57-interviews/9682 In fact, he knew what was in
Denton’s letter. Was the letter really written by Walter Denton? In his blog, Tim Rohr wrote the year “1977” and “40 years” as far back as
October 2015. See the screen shot below:
Then on January 22, 2016, he named a specific date: April 15, 1977. See the screen shot below taken from his blog:
On February, 2016, he once again named "April 15, 1977."
On
June 7th, Walter Denton came out, accusing Archbishop Apuron of raping
him. He had a letter prepared. His letter stated (the bold is
mine):
Fast forward to Friday April 15, 1977 on or about 5:30 pm. Father Anthony Apuron (ARCHBISHOP) was to give the Friday evening service. I was on the schedule to assist Father Anthony Apuron during Mass. After Mass, Father Tony asked me to stay at the Rectory on Saturday evening. I told Father Anthony I had to ask my Dad. My Dad told me I could.
The full letter
can be found in the Junglewatch blog: http://www.junglewatch.info/2016/06/altar-boy-sodomized-by-father-apuron.html#more
Contrary
to what Tim Rohr stated in the Jesse Lujan show, he was very much involved with
both Quintanilla and Denton. He had these "alleged victims" already lined
up for almost a year, and they were simply waiting for Rohr to give them the
signal to go public..
The day before Roland Sondia came out, Rohr told his readers in his blog
to remember June 15th at 10:00 a.m. That was the date and time
Roland Sondia came out. A similar thing
was done with the rest of the alleged victims.
In the Patti Arroyo talk show, Tim stated that Walter Denton was Victim #1 and Roy Quintanilla was Victim #3. At that time, he also said that Victim #2 did not come out yet. For someone who claimed that he had no involvement with Quintanilla and Denton in the Jesse Lujan talk show, he knew who was Victim #1, #2, and so on. In the interview below, Tim Rohr admitted that he did not want Walter to go forward in public first, and that Roy was willing to go first.
http://www.pacificnewscenter.com/pnc-k57-interviews/9682
In the Patti Arroyo talk show, Tim stated that Walter Denton was Victim #1 and Roy Quintanilla was Victim #3. At that time, he also said that Victim #2 did not come out yet. For someone who claimed that he had no involvement with Quintanilla and Denton in the Jesse Lujan talk show, he knew who was Victim #1, #2, and so on. In the interview below, Tim Rohr admitted that he did not want Walter to go forward in public first, and that Roy was willing to go first.
http://www.pacificnewscenter.com/pnc-k57-interviews/9682
So,
why did Tim Rohr develop the sexual abuse ads with CCOG paying thousands of
dollars for those ads, knowing that he already had these so-called "alleged victims" lined
up just waiting for him to give the signal to appear in public? Because
he wanted people to think that it was the ads that brought them out otherwise it may look suspicious......just as it would look suspicious if people knew that Rohr already had the "Agat boys" lined up before Mae Ada came on the air. If people knew the truth, they would know they were not
alleged victims at all, but accuse them of being false witnesses. The goal was to remove Archbishop
Apuron. And all the "alleged victims" who
came forward said to remove Archbshop Apuron.
That was the main restitution they requested.
There were many inconsistencies in Tim's stories and interviews on the radio talk shows. For example, on May 17th with Travis Coffman, Tim said that Roy Quintanilla got on a plane after May 13th, came to Guam and then publicly accused Apuron of sexually molesting him just 3 days later. Then on May 19th with Phil Leon Guerrero, Tim said that he had Roy brought over to Guam from Hawaii a month ago. A man who tells too many inconsistencies in his stories is a man who has something to hide.
There were many inconsistencies in Tim's stories and interviews on the radio talk shows. For example, on May 17th with Travis Coffman, Tim said that Roy Quintanilla got on a plane after May 13th, came to Guam and then publicly accused Apuron of sexually molesting him just 3 days later. Then on May 19th with Phil Leon Guerrero, Tim said that he had Roy brought over to Guam from Hawaii a month ago. A man who tells too many inconsistencies in his stories is a man who has something to hide.
Let's take this to court so that the truth can come out. You have you screenshots and we have documents and victims. I bet you wouldn't post this.
ReplyDeleteDeaf Anonymous at 11:04 am,
DeleteThe trial will be taking place at the Vatican. The Vatican already has all the documents including Denton's letter.
Who is we anon 11:04 AM?
DeleteThese alleged victims all had a chance to talk to their parents and bring forth their complaints right away when it allegedly happened. But they did not talk to their parents. All these accusers had a chance to speak up when Fr. Apuron was appointed to be the Archbishop of Agana. But they remained silent. All these people who make these outlandish charges could have come forward when the Guam legislation created a 2-years window of opportunity for hearing sexual abuse charges. But nobody ever had come forward! Why?
DeleteWhy these people did not talk to their parents? Why these accusers remained silent when the Archbishop was appointed? Why these alleged victims did not come forward when the window of opportunity was opened for them? Is it possible that they have never had the idea, and could have never predicted that they would come to make a media show on demand of the war makers in 2016? This does not make any sense, folks. To say the least, something is very fishy here...
Diana @ 11:22 AM -- How would you know that information if you're just a woman walking in the Way and no one know who you are?
DeleteDear Anonymous at 3:05 pm,
DeleteThe evidence of conspiracy was found in the jungle. All anyone had to do was read the jungle. The Archdiocese said they uncovered a plot to topple the Archbishop.
The Jungle has all the evidence to disprove their own statements. The Jungle demonstrates on its pages that all they say there is fake. The Jungle is undoing itself before our own eyes, before the anger and hatred had blinded them to see their own blunders, errors and failures. This is the fate of those who invent and make up an untrue and fake reality for their own individual and egotistic purposes.
DeleteI am not responding with anger to the accusations of Rohr, the Jungle, the SNAP, the CCOG and the LFM! I am not angry but I am confused and curious. I would like to understand what is going on here. Why is it necessary to destroy my church, my community and the faithful of Guam Catholics for the purpose of individual and egotistic goals?
I am responding with love and peace. I have love and peace in my heart whenever I think of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I am asking where is the love and peace of those who
- announce war,
- wound and maul people, and
- assassinate characters
for fun on demand of the war makers? I am aware that I am no better than anyone else on this wide earth. I am falling short in everything I do in the eye of the Almighty. This gives me love and peace towards my fellow sinners who are suffering with me in the prison of sinfulness.
But I still would like to know
1. why should we need these Catholic jihadists to fight a jihad of intimidation and terror?
2. why these Catholic jihadists fight against the leaders of my own Catholic Church and against my own Catholic community?
As children of God, we have to embrace those who sin against the church if they repent, but for the love of Christ we should NOT embrace their war they wage against everything holy and we should not embrace their sin.
St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle against the lies and snares of the evil one!
To Diana @ 3:30 PM -- I was referring to your comment about how you know that the trial will take place at the Vatican and how they have all the documents already.
DeleteDear Anonymous at 3:29 am,
DeleteThe trial will take place in the Vatican because only the Vatican can investigate the Bishop. The Vatican has the documents and that is all that matters.
Diana June 19, 2016 at 11:22 AM - Why the Vatican? The accusations did not happen there so why let them investigate? I am sure that are reliable un-bias investigators on Guam who can come up with the truth. The Vatican is thousand and thousand of miles away and are not involved with the day-to-day on the island so how can they make a just decision? Just Saying! By the way, looks like you are copying the format like the Jungle Watch. Have you ever done anything original on your own?
DeleteDiana on Sexual Allegation Conspiracy:
ReplyDeleteIf memory serves me right, it goes even further back--to 2014, I believe. Tim Rohr admits that he'd heard rumours in the past, as have many others stated, but that wasn't the main issue at the time. It was all mainly anger at the NCW changes and then the Fr. Paul incident up to then. So it was just Mae Ada's call in 2015 that started the ball rolling for him with the sexual assault issue. That and the Toves accusations, too. Then came the Benavente issue --although still only related to NCW. Once that grew, you'd better believe Rohr was investigating truth to those sexual allegations for more dirt for his battle against Apuron.
You asked "why did Tim Rohr develop the sexual abuse ads with CCOG paying thousands of dollars for those ads, knowing that he already had these so-called "alleged victims" lined up just waiting for him to give the signal to appear in public?" It's obvious: to get more of them to come forth because as the saying goes 'there's strength in numbers'. Sounds to me like Mr. Rohr has been doing his own investigation on this for a while and and now has everything in place to expose. He's warned of this happening--even taunting Apuron and associates that there is something brewing. In my opinion, if Apuron truly cared about the Church of Guam he would've just stepped aside and let Vatican do their investigation and maybe saved us all the negative press that has gone worldwide, notwithstanding 'innocent until proven guilty'.
Dear Anonymous at 11:09 am,
DeleteWhat I posted here are only a sample. The Archdiocese of Agana had uncovered this conspiracy, and Archbishop Apuron left to Rome about three days after Quintanilla came forward. The Archbishop already had many screen shots and print outs with him when he went to Rome asking for their help. The Holy See has in their possession those screen shots and print outs from Rohr's blog along with the taped interviews. They know that Tim Rohr had called for the removal,of the Archbishop since 2014. If this was not an orchestrated conspiracy, then why all the inconsistencies in his stories?
There was a conspiracy all right. It was a conspiracy to bring the scandals that had been whispered about for years into the light. It's surprising how many people had been "in the know" for the past 4 decades. But nobody dared to break the silence even though some may have had a "feeling" that there were other victims. Nobody wanted to be the first to come forward.
DeleteThere have been stories floating around about other priests who have had relationships with women (wanted and unwanted) after their ordinations but with the archbishop all of his alleged encounters have been with young males. The accusations against the archbishop are disturbing because except for Roland Sondia they were made by men who were in their early teens which would make them acts of pedophilia and even in jail pedophiles are considered the lowest of the low. With the assault on Roland Sondia when he was 15 the act became one of homosexuality. People have said the archbishop has come out against homosexuality and cannot be guilty of such acts. But stranger things have happened.
The investigation can't be done on island. But the archbishop can follow up on his threats to file his defamation lawsuits against John Toves (2014), Roy Quintanilla and Tim Rohr (2016). He has been working with his prominent law firm for 2 years against John Toves but nothing has happened. In the meantime Tim Rohr continues to uncover more shame and scandal in the archdiocese in his conspiracy to shine the light of truth and set us all free.
Thank you
Deaf Anonymous at 12:32 pm,
DeleteTim Rohr's efforts have been filled,with so much inconsistencies simply because they were not efforts to uncover anything, but an orchestrated conspiracy to bring down the Archbishop at any cost.
Rohr has had threatened repeatedly over and over again to bring forth sexual abuse charges if his wishes, demands and ultimatums are not fulfilled. However, his efforts of intimidation and sheer mental terror did not pay off. Now, he acts on his threat and makes up a full load of despicable charges.
DeleteThat's all smoke but no substance. Much ado for nothing. Whoever can still believe him?
Anonymous June 19, 2016 at 1:03 PM - 'Smoke but no substance"? WOW! Can you read and absorb? I guess NOT!!!!!
DeleteOh snap!
ReplyDeleteNot just,SNAP. Where's the media? Oh KUAM, PNC!
DeleteThis has to be in the media!
ReplyDeleteDear anonymous at 12:40 pm,
DeleteI agree. People have heard Tim Rohr's side of the story. They should also hear the side of the Archdiocese and what they discovered.
I think people have been waiting patiently to hear the side of the archdiocese. But you said that archbishop Apuron was being silent like Jesus.
DeleteNow that men are accusing the archbishop of sex abuse he isn't silent. But what he's saying doesn't sound very convincing when he says he's innocent and also demonizing the victims. A simple "I did not touch Roy Quintanilla or Sonny Quinata or Walter Denton" without saying they're spreading "malicious and calumnious lies" would have been more dignified. Also not sending people like Deacon Tenorio to make 2 statements especially the PNC one when he had a hard time reading might have helped. I noticed that Deacon Tenorio really had a hard time reading his statements. Using your criticism against the accusers of the archbishop (they read their statements) shouldn't Deacon Tenorio have just talked instead of reading his defense of the archbishop? It looks like he's reading from a script.
How can they discover something if there was no investigation needed as stated from the mouth of Deacon Claros?
DeleteDear Anonymous at 3:04 pm,
DeleteIf the accusers can read their statements, then I see no reason why Deacon Tenorio should not read his. I believe that setting up an innocent man in this fashion is extremely malicious.
Diane - You posted - "I agree. People have heard Tim Rohr's side of the story. They should also hear the side of the Archdiocese and what they discovered! Get Your Side of the Story Out But I Want Apuron's side, Not Yours!
DeleteDear Anonymous at 6:53 am,
DeleteDid you not know that the Archdiocese of Agana already came out and said that there was a plot to topple the Archbishop?
Yes plot within to topple Archbishop. Led by a small group of archbishop's detractors
DeleteBut if the Archbishop has molested children, isn't it fair enough to want to "topple" him?
DeleteDear Anonymous at 2:57 pm,
DeleteTim Rohr wanted to topple the Archbishop, but it was never because of any sexual allegations. That was never his reason. It was mainly because of the removal of Monsignor James.
Yes, but that's not my point. If the Archbishop has molested children, isn't it fair enough to want to "topple" him? Yes or No? I would say yes. So, if these people are convinced in their conscience that the allegations of the victims are true, then it is perfectly understandable that they want the Archbishop gone, even if their original reason was different.
DeleteDear Diana, good job! I guess your finding would effectively deconstruct the charges of Rohr and the army of accusers he recruited for SNAP.
ReplyDeleteExcellent job! The jungle is in shambles and Rohr is in parrot mode, repeating back his nonsense over and over again. He is desperately recycling his garbage without being able to produce any shred of new information. This is a sure sign that jungle folks are frightened and confused because their lies had been exposed!
DeleteThe mastermind is taken by his own words. Lol!
DeleteDiana @11:38--
ReplyDeleteI doubt that the need for screenshots and printouts was necessary. In fact, perhaps not advisable since there would be the danger of taking something out of context. The Vatican just needs to go to Junglewatch and read for themselves....in fact, they probably have people on it already! There's a tracker on the site which identifies the countries and Vatican has been a frequent visitor of late...
Dear Anonymous at 1:26 pm,
DeleteThe printouts and screen shots are necessary because Tim Rohr can always edit his posts and comments.
Comments people write should be screen shot sent to Pope Francis
DeleteIf it's anyone who has something to hide Diana, it's ARCHBISHOP APURON and we all know it!! Why doesn't he confront the accusers? Instead he threatens to sue them?
ReplyDeleteDear Anonymous at 2:57 pm,
DeleteThe Archbishop did confront them. Through the media, he told them and everyone else that he did not do any of the things they accused him of. Just as his accusers made their allegations public, so did Archbishop Apuron came out and made his statements public.
I do not believe that it was Apuron who actually talked to the media. If he was on the island and said these things, the media would have reported it and it would have been on the front page for all to see. It was through the NEOs!
DeleteImpossible for one person to create a conspiracy story of such magnitude. Are you saying Tim along with SNAP created this conspiracy? Who are the conspiracy script writers?
ReplyDeleteDear Anonymous at 5:24 pm,
DeleteAccording to the interviews, Tim Rohr worked together with John Toves. John Toves knew the names of the alter boys who were in the Agat parish.
We should also see the bigger picture. The jungle gets clandestine support from rogue covert forces and wayward political organizations from the mainland and from elsewhere. Destroying a Chamorro archbishop and the local church would be a big score for them, no question about it! The aim is to weaken Guam's cultural and political standing by any means possible so that any kind of self-determination would be out of question for another century or so.
DeleteArchbishop Apuron said he was going to sue. Still waiting to see it happen. Or maybe they're just threats?
ReplyDeleteAnonymous 7:54 you think this a bluff.. Canonical measure is much worst than a law suit. I would stay anonymous if I were you.
DeleteAnon 7:54 pm, very awkward attempt of spying on us. Lol! Why should we tell you and your fellow co-conspirators anything we are planning to do?! The only thing we can tell you is that you will be very much surprised in the end, no question about it.
DeleteHuh? Who's spying?? They've been asking that question since the first time Apuron threatened to sue! There's even been a couple time clocks put up on jungle watch for it.
DeleteAnd now you're threatening with canonical measures....dont you know Archbishop Hon already threw out the decree?
By the way, I thought seminarians were instructed by pius to stay away from the blogs? ;-)
On island problems caused by afew people. Archbishop Hon must call them into his office to stop their bad behavior towards Archbishop Apuron.
DeleteSame names over and over again causing problems in our Archdiocese. Some of these are not even from Guam.
9:08PM enough trolling, we are not seminarian. I'm passionate about my Catholic Church. What I can't stand is the two face evil that your jungle present. An end will come and if you can't accept Romes decision, then your a protestant
Delete12:05AM--
DeleteNot MY jungle, just a passionate Catholic as well, trying my hardest to keep abreast of the issues from BOTH sides. I can and WILL accept the decision issued by the Vatican-- I'm not as stringent as some of them can be. I realize it won't go entirely the way I'd like, but so be it.
The question is: will you and the other Neos accept it? Even if it asks you to change the way you do some things?
Dear Anonymous at 11:14 am,
DeleteIn regards to the Neocatechumenal Way, Rome has already spoken on January, 2015 when the Vatican Delegation visited Guam. The Vatican told Tim Rohr that the Neocatechumenal Way is just fine. There are no problems with it, but Rohr kept that to himself until he slipped. See the weblink below:
http://neocatechemunal.blogspot.com/2016/06/vatican-said-ncw-is-fine.html
So now you believe Rohr? If this was true, why didn't the Vatican Delegation say it publicly?
DeleteIn any case, thanks in no small part to your blog and the idiocy of the NCW leadership here, the Vatican will have much more to say about the NCW - and I don't think you will like it!
What? The "Vatican" has spoken about the way via Tim Rohr's meeting on Guam? I'm not so sure that is an official pronouncement
DeleteDear Anonymous at 11:38 and 11:42 am,
DeleteWhether it was an official announcement or not, the fact is it came from the Vatican officials. And the only reason they can say this is because they already know the official announcement. The question is....why did Tim Rohr keep this to himself? Why did he not reveal to his readers what the Vatican Delegation said about the Way? He only revealed it in his frustration when he called in to the radio talk shows.
It is not a matter of whether I believe Tim Rohr or not. What Tim Rohr says in his frustration is usually the truth. You can also tell the degree of his frustration due to the number of posts he publishes on his blog. Just today, he published 9 posts in his blog. That is a lot of frustration.
His fabrications are in the inconsistent stories he tells. As I said before, on May 17th, he said that Roy Quintanilla got on a plane after May 13th. Then on May 19th, he says something different. He said that Roy was brought to Guam from Hawaii a month ago. As I also brought up in the OP, Tim Rohr acted "surprise" on the Patti Arroyo talk show after hearing Mae Ada's story only to find out in the same day that he already had the "Agat boys" prepared ahead of time.
You ask why didn't Tim Rohr reveal it to his readers? It's because anything regarding the NCW is kept in secret. You should know that by now Diana!
DeleteDear Anonymous at 9:35 pm,
DeleteAre you reading the same thing as I am? I do not think you are on the same page.
Since we know our beloved Archbishop Anthony is innocent let's show up at the Legislature next Monday June 27 at 10AM to show our support for Bill No. 326-33 (COR). The jungle doesn't expect us to show up. We have nothing to worry about so let's show them.
ReplyDeleteYou are pretending. Do you think we don't notice? Ouch!
DeleteLOL 12:08 PM!! Are you being facetious?
DeleteOK I was wrong. I heard people say that if you don't support Bill No. 326-33 (COR) you support child sexual abuse.
DeleteI thought we knew Brother Tony is innocent.
I thought we are against child sexual abuse.
I found out that our Zoltan was the only one who testified against Bill 326-33.
Now people are saying the Neocatechumenal Way is for child sexual abuse.
I'm not for child sexual abuse.
Does Zoltan's testimony mean that Brother Tony abused those boys?
I'm very sad.
I have never heard what you say. Which community are you attending?
DeleteAfter reading this, I admit that these alleged victims could be lying. All of them were involved with Tim. The allegations would be more credible if Tim had nothing to do with it. I guess that's why he tried to change his story when interviewed by Jesse Lujan.
ReplyDeleteAll of them came from Agat, and Apuron was there only for 2 years. He was at the Cathedral for 6 years, and no alterboys from the Cathedral came out claiming sexual molestation. This doesn't sound like a serial molester.
Dear Anonymous at 12:57 pm,
DeleteI agree with you. You made a very good point. Another thing that I find rather odd in all this is the fact that all the "alleged victims" told of only ONE sexual incident with the Archbishop rather than 2 years of sexual molestation.
I listened to Roland's interview and I wish Jesse would persist in his questions because something didn't make sense. Roland said he ran home crying after being sexually molested. When asked what his parents said when he got home in the middle of the night, crying, he said he stayed outside. I wish Jesse would have asked him when he decided to go inside the house. Surely, his parents would have known that something was wrong when they saw their son home early. And if he was outside his house crying, a family member inside the house would know if someone was outside crying.
Delete@ Anon. 12:57. Your right. The allegations sound more credible if Tim had nothing to do with it. But Tim has everything to do with it and was even lying about it. Diana is right. If there's nothin to hide, why all the inconsistencies?
Delete"And if he was outside his house crying, a family member inside the house would know if someone was outside crying. "
DeleteThat's an assumption based on what you would prefer. It is entirely possible that he came home early, remained outside crying and that nobody noticed him.
Dear Diana at 1.06pm
Delete"Another thing that I find rather odd in all this is the fact that all the "alleged victims" told of only ONE sexual incident with the Archbishop rather than 2 years of sexual molestation. "
Would you go back for seconds if you were abused? It is not odd at all. Also, we don't know the full details of Doris' son, or the others who are yet to come out publicly.
Dear Anonymous at 1:46 pm,
DeleteThe others who will come out will most likely say they have been abused for two years due to the fact that it has already been brought up.
Dear Anonymous at 1:44 pm,
DeleteAre you saying that he remained outside the whole time? And what about in the morning? Did not his parents question him why he is home early? A boy who runs home crying and finds more comfort alone outside rather than in the safety of his parents?
Dear Anonymous at 1:29 PM-
DeleteHe said everyone was sleeping when he went home.
The inconsistencies of this testimony will cause the domino effect. One testimony falls, all of them falls! The more fake stories come out, the easier it becomes to catch them and expose their artificial design. They will fall into the same trap they set up for others.
DeleteDiana @11:42 a.m., correction......Tim now has 11 posts today, not 9.
ReplyDelete9 posts? 11 posts? Big deal. Why are you even going into the jungle???????
DeleteWith all this Conspiracy Tim Rohr is causing,can he spend time in jail ?? or pay damages for damaging the Bishop reputation, who's backing him up ?? must be a lot of money, million- property, Casino, F B I needs to get into this one,this is no Movie........
ReplyDeleteHe slammed the door running out...
ReplyDeleteNo one woke up??
Dear Anonymous at 4:59 pm,
DeleteI remember Roland said that too. He slammed the door on his way out, and no one woke up? He ran home crying, and no one in his family heard anything outside? In my neighborhood, when a person passes by, the neighborhood dogs bark. A 15 year old kid running through the neighborhood in the middle of the night would bring out the barking dogs and eventually the neighbors.
What exactly is The Truth? Proving EITHER innocence or guilt? Meaning you are right and Tim is wrong or you are wrong and Tim is right? You have to choose according to both of your standards. So it seems that neither of you can compromise because both of you want to prove the other wrong.
ReplyDeleteQuestion:
Does guilt and innocence even matter? Why not just apologize? Wouldn't that be the most peaceful solution? The alleged victims don't need to go to court they just want an apology. So why not apologize and say I'm sorry for the wrong that was done to you, whether it is true or not? If it is going to heal them, then why not? I mean why care what people are going to say or think about it? The political ramifications? Well, who cares about political power. Is it the fear of losing power, position, and reputation that keeps you fighting to prove guilt or innocence? Why fight at all?
The claim is fighting for the church right? But fighting against whom? The devil that sows division and confusion? Well then show me where the division and confusion are because if anything BOTH blogs are causing division and confusion because while you claim to both be on the side of the church you are choosing to force the church to believe EITHER the Archbishop is guilty or he's innocent.
What can you agree on in this civil war? Why don't we start from there?
It is only one side that wants to turn this into dirty politics.
Delete1. Who is filling the media with trash?
2. Who is recruiting and soliciting fake and malicious charges?
3. Who is committing character assassination every single day?
4. Who is demanding the resignation of our Archbishop?
5. Who is trying to coerce Archbishop Hon and Vatican to act on their behalf?
6. Who is threatening the NCW by telling they'll wipe us out of Guam?
7. Who is turning to politicians for help asking them to pass anti-constitutional legislation?
8. Who is playing to role of slanderous Danton and murderous Marat from the French Revolution?
9. Who is announcing jihad against us Catholics in order to intimidate and terrorize our communities?
10. Who is acting in this whole affair with anger, hatred and profanity?
Tell me, please, who? Tell me why one side only, always the same one side?! Why Doesn't this tell you who are for waging a "holy war" here and who are for peace? Please, be honest!
From the jw blog....its nothing but bad name calling and disrespect for fellow catholics who are in the Way...
ReplyDeleteSo bad that they even name call vatican clergy who scrutinizes all accusations in prayer and what they were tought on how to approach these issues with the love of Christ....
I see only one sided persicution from jungle, lfm and ccog using thier network of media and social status as leverage in thier favor.... all to crucify one person. The same way Jesus was crucified....
The Archbishop is the lamb led to the slaughter.... he didnt even say a word....but that he is innocent...
If they expect Archbishop Hon to act on impulse....good luck....
I dont think he would want to play Pontius Pilate in this event....the accusers want Barnabus....
My bad...Barabus...
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