These are a few of the comments below regarding the behavior of the protesters. I just listed 21 comments from 21 different people. There are many more who were AGAINST the protesters' behavior. A vast majority of people who made comments are not in the Way, and they do not support the jungle's behavior. Comments who supported the protesters were extremely few. In fact, they are basically the same people. Those who were against these protesters came from a variety of backgrounds and were more in number:
1. Daphanie Ngirachelsau: how rude yelling at him
2. Dennise Marie: This is absolutely appalling to watch. They should be so ashamed of their actions. Yes, we all have freedom to choose to do what we wish, but to conduct yourself in this manner and call yourself a Christian is embarrassing.
3. Doreen Cabrera: Wow! This is just so embarrassing. This is just one of the reasons why catholics have been changing their religions. What in the world!!!
4. Aric Garcia: That is sad, my parents use to say to me in Chamorro " to mai mai gù
Si Jesus" ( god is not sleeping) all I know is that is just wrong.
5. Javier Isidro: I don't feel that these protesters are acting Catholic at all. Just let the guy be. People have the right to practice their own religious beliefs. "The First Amendment" people.
6. Tiarra Jean Tyquiengco: You act of what they're doing is so hypocritical!!! This is not what jesus would do! Shame on you people. Why do you act like that? You may not agree with change or like what you have heard, but is this a way of acting? You do not say such things like this to anyone or act like that, so foolish!
7. Meno Franklin: What gives them the right to go and act like idiots about a person belief especially at the airport. They should go home themselves
8. Shauntay Aflleje: I agree with almost everyone here. Is this how catholics behave? Is this the Hafa Adai spirit? Can you imagine what other visitors who were in the airport at the time were thinking?? Shame of you guys for not only making your faith look bad bit your island as well 😐
9. Mae Taitague: Oh my goodness! Can't believe that was happening at the airport in Guam. Not so nice!
10. Travis Sanchez: Wow how embarrassing from all you elderly people of guam... is this how guam is YOU SHOULD JUST GO HOME AND PRAY LOL TO SDMH...DON'T JUDGE PEOPLE FOR THERE DOINGS AND THE THINGS THEY'VE DONE WE ALL HAVE A REASON FOR THE THINGS WE DO AND WHY WE DO IT... LET HIM BE AND THE THINGS HE BELIEVES IN ALONE MAYBE THAT'S WHY A LOT OF PEOPLE CHANGE THERE RELIGION LOL....SMGDH YOU GUYS NEED JESUS LOL
11. Jazmin Sanchez: SMH 😐 Saying a prayer for all of those protesters. Instead of showing hate, go to church and pray for the guy. My goodness!
12. Darlene Dydasco Camacho: Wow! I am not in any way Neo, but this is so embarrassing. We are not a people with so much hatred we cannot protest in silence and peace. God will provide. Prayer is much stronger. Come on Guam! 😳
13. Angelica Denena: How embarrassing for our people. The first thing those people see are these "protesters", not the beauty of our island and warmth of our people.
14. Lynn Meno Santos: Where was security? They should've been escorted off airport property.
15, Jason F. Cruz: these people need to grow up and stop being a child they need to remember that Guam is a respectful Island we welcome everyone no matter what the situation but to do things like this is what makes Guam look Bad.
16. Theresa Gutierrez-Eustaquio: Oh my goodness, so much hate. That's no way to be a Catholic. It makes me very sad to see that
17, Ralia Marie: I may not be in favor neocatechumenal but this is very shameful.
18. Jennifer Lynn This makes me really sad... No matter what you may disagree with when it comes to the Neocatechumenal Way, this is no way to treat a person .
19. Jade Binx: Wow such shame. Where the hell is airport police at?
20. Joan Ysauo Reseky: Wow I'm not pointing fingers but tis is pretty embarrassing for us as a whole community of mixed islanders. It doesn't matter what church or island whatever ur from or what, tis is our island of paradise welcoming many many different different people no.matter what ethical believes u have. it's the love that makes us unique n the kindness family oriented believes in one unity and so forth. But after watching tis video it scares Me to think that the actually did tis to.tis poor.man. now what he's gonna say about the welcoming committee? My believes is no.matter what church and what not...if u are so called church or god believers then cast out whatever u hears and just go.with ur own believes. Following others in doing tis.is just shameful and it doesn't matter what the guy did.KEEP.UP.THE LOVE FOR.ONE ANOTHER AND DECREASE DA HATE OF.EVERYONE
21. Linda Perez: I'm not Catholic but it seemed rude. They should have protested in silence and from a distance. They were practically in his face and loud. Everyone has a right worship In their own way.
Freedom of expression includes the right to protest. However, there are limits to freedom of expression. One of the reasons why the United States have lost so much of their moral values is because people started looking more at their "rights" and forget their "responsibilities" that comes with those rights. They prefer to have "rights", but no "responsibilities." You have a right to protest, but you have a responsibility to be respectful of other people's rights.
The reason why many do not support these protesters is because of their rude and disrespectful behavior. So, Rome is not listening to the junglefolks. What you see in the video, which was captured on PNC news is not freedom of expression. Going up to a person's face and yelling at him even as he was putting his luggage into the car is harassment.
Kudos to the Gennarinis for turning the other cheek and not retaliating. By following what Jesus has taught, he has gained the support of the majority of Catholics and even non-Catholics on this island. He has shown how a real Christian is supposed to behave.
Although I do not agree with the protesting I am also offended that you keep calling them jungle folks. Not sure where that came from.
ReplyDeleteDear Celeste,
DeleteThe name is not "jungle folks." The name is "junglefolks"........one word. It is one word because I am referring them as the folks from Junglewatch.......not folks from the jungle. It is a shortened name like Joe is short for Joseph. THE Jungle is the shortened name for Junglewatch, and junglefolks is the shortened name of folks from Junglewatch.
I'm glad that you don't agree with the protesting, but as some people have pointed out here, Diana wasn't being offensive in calling them junglefolks. Diana has called them our brothers and sisters despite that their behavior is unchristian.
DeleteThe goal of these violent thugs is to stir emotions until an explosion would take place hurting and mauling people beyond recognition. They openly declared their obnoxious goal of their dirty job at the Junglewatch blog under the supervision of professional hate monger Timothy Rohr.
DeleteSomeone just asked Rohr at the jungle why is he doing all this hate mongering. "I am good at it, ain't I?" was his answer. Make your own conclusion.
Who are these Junglefolks?
DeleteI want to meet them to ask what is the real problem they have with us.
Have my ncw community offended them. Lets meet to discuss problems.
Plese give me Junglefolks number. I will phone them.
DeleteHate mongers small group. They have nothing better to do than spread hate in our community.
Can we identify these Junglefolks with a complete roll call.
DeleteDear Anonymous at 7:36 pm,
DeleteFor what purpose?
Because I don't believe it is two people causing problems for Archbishop.
DeleteTwo people alone cannot cause this fuss.
Others must be involved.
Dear Anonymous at 8:56 pm,
Delete"Two people" is a metaphor for the "two sides."
DeleteThose writing in Jungle some are not even living on island. God only knows what their motive is when they live thousands of air miles away from us. Perhaps they are the one Rohr pays to make noise.
Please do not refer to these protesters as a little mob of angry junglefolk. Your piece is criticizing their actions because you think they are being disrespectful, but referring to US citizens as jungle folk is ignorant and insulting.
ReplyDeleteDear Anonymous at 10:11 am,
DeletePlease read my response to Celeste above.
Violent mob is a correct description. Old people with Parkinson and Alzheimer are being sent out to do the dirty job for the troublemaker. Yelling is nothing less than verbal violence. It is just the first step toward physical violence that is the real goal of the jungle mob. Just think about angry people who yell before they hit.
DeleteIs it really necessary that someone would be hit, mauled and physically attacked before everyone realizes what this angry and violent mob is doing on Guam in service of the troublemaker?!
Dear Anonymous at 12:20 pm,
DeleteI agree that verbal violence is only one step away from physical violence. Physical violence usually starts out with verbal violence. Where is airport security? Would they step in when it turns to physical violence. By then, it would be too late. Intervention should start the moment one senses a possible escalation from bad to worse.
DeleteWho are Junglefolk?
Do they exist?
Do they have names faces.
I have asked who they are. No one know who they are.
Watched KUAM news video.
DeleteDisturbing.
Unheard of to welcome our friends like this.
I can only ask them to forgive our people.
Dear Anonymous at 11:51 pm,
DeleteThe junglefolks include Tim Rohr, Chuck White, LFM, CCOG and those who support the Junglewatch blog. The protesters at the airport are supporters of Junglewatch.
Protestors are Junglewatch I believe that.
DeleteAre the protestors the ones who comment in Jungle.
I think protestors are different group to commenters.
In which case group is larger that I thought.
LISTEN!
ReplyDeleteDiana is calling them Junglefolks because they are supporters of the Jungewatch blog! The blog of hate. The blog that claims to be Catholic, but does things that are not Catholic.
The jungle blog is a site or hired tongues. They all speak for their boss whatever he tells them to say. They are hired and lavishly paid off by the troublemaker. It is too bad resources are so blatantly abused and access to covert information is misused.
DeleteThey are like loose cannons inside the community of those people.
This is frightening, folks! Here is a sample what is going on at the jungle right now!
Delete"AnonymousApril 22, 2016 at 8:45 AM
Guam's islanders will prevail! Drive those stinking outsiders out of our island!!"
It is xenophobia, folks! It is inciting violence against those who come here with the approval and endorsement of Rohr! A sad message against the tradition of an island famous for its hospitality and welcoming spirit extended to everyone!
Rohr became a Catholic Charlie Manson who orders his fans to go violent, while he washes his hands in his disguise of being "innocent".
@celeste and Anon. 10:11 am, those who have been reading Diana's blog have used the name "junglefolks" as referring to those who are from Junglewatch. JW calls itself "the Jungle". Tim Rohr has been known to tell his opponents not to play In the jungle. So, that's where the name comes from. Since that time, JW or Junglewatch has been called the jungle because that's also what Tim calls his blog. The name "junglefolks" was always referring to those from the Junglewatch blog, and not meant as an offense of any kind.
ReplyDeleteDear Anonymous at 11:01 am and 11:14 am,
DeleteCeleste and Anonymous 10:11 am are probably new to my blog and unaware that Tim Rohr has been known to call his blog "the Jungle". They did not know that "junglefolks" was referring to those in the Junglewatch blog, which not only includes Tim Rohr, but also those who support him.
There is a covert war going on against the archdiocese of Agana by the order of an off-island mastermind, the troublemaker. His lieutenants are seen and easily identified at the jungle. This war is perpetrated and fed by a handful of professionals who openly brag about and blow their own cover of misusing publicly unavailable information.
DeleteRohr cries out at the jungle:
Delete"CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW, TONY? CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?" The guy is truly desperate for a little attention, isn't he. How about a little spanking then, that would be truly gratifying for ya'? Lol.
Lol 12:33. WHAT WAR?!
DeleteI have been equivocal for a some time in distancing moderate disagreement with the Neocatechumenal Way from the radicalism of Junglewatch. NCW and JW are not the opposing ends of Catholic life on Guam.
ReplyDeleteNCW is a faith group that tries to entice the parishioners to join them, mostly by standard religious recruiting techniques. Those who cannot resist the enticement of NCW will join and I have nothing against this. However, I maintain my right to criticize particular issues that NCW promotes. Among them is perhaps the biggest question about NCW: why don't you guys just return to our churches and share fellowship with the different church groups inside the same parish?
My disagreement with NCW won't make me a follower of JW. I just find the radicalism of JW counterproductive and dangerous. The clueless protesters who are sent out by JW to wreak havoc at the airport are not even aware of what they are being used for! I see political ambitions by traditionalist groups that should keep their politics away from the church.
One has to ask what is JW thinking to achieve through shouting loudly and impolitely at people at the Guam airport? What is the purpose of this ridiculous misbehavior? Would Mr. Gennarini change his mind and resign from the Board of Guarantors of the Redemptoris Mater Seminary? This is an erroneous assumption with no basis at all. If they wanted to humiliate him, it is even worse. A high representative of a religious group won't show friendliness when vilified, won't support reconciliation with arrogant adversaries.
I had quoted the 12 Rules of Radicals on this blog written by the extreme liberal Saul Alinsky. It is just too sad that JW and its leaders follow closely these liberal tactics to make more and more trouble for everyone, without offering any real solution that would lead our beloved Catholic diocese out of this sad situation we have now.
Hi, I'm in the NCW. For years I have been to Sunday masses. It wasn't clicking with me. I was hardly touched by anything. I couldn't even understand what the priest would say because of the bad sound quality of their systems. I wanted to leave this "organized regligion." BUT I DIDN'T!
DeleteRegardless, I have always been a Catholic. I almsot left. I tried out this NCW. What happened to me now? I go to Sunday mass still. I go to Saturday mass still. I can now be attentive in Sunday mass. I understand now why we Catholics do things. It wasn't just repetition for me anymore. The NCW helped me understand the value of a Christian lifestyle. Joining the NCW made me a better Catholic. It helped me and the hell I was in. It helped me love my Faith.
Return to the churches? FYI, for many brothers in the NCW, we returned. Others, they never left. Thank God.
The situation can simply be solved. The leader of the Catholic Church has to personally address the concerns of the protestors. Remaining silent will continue to cause a divide for the faithful.
DeleteAlthough many say this is a small group, it's getting larger and larger everyday. Archbishop address the situation now.
Unbiased Catholic fairhful
Dear Unbiased Catholic faithful,
DeleteYour concerns were already addressed. There is nothing new the Archbishop will tell you. You say that the RMS property does not belong to the Archdiocese. The Archbishop will say that it does. That concern has already been addressed.
Due to the offensive nature on how the protest was conducted, the weblink is removed from the post. However, you can find footage of the same video in KUAM news.
ReplyDeleteDiana it is true. Jungle people preparing to egg throw. Phoned chancery to warn them.
ReplyDeleteDear Anonymous at 6:31 pm,
DeleteAs it was said under this thread, verbal violence is only one step away from physical violence. Some of them are blind with hate. They saw the reaction of the majority who commented under PNC news. What did they think the reaction will be when they resort to throwing eggs?
DeleteTim rohr ordered throwing of eggs to stop. Order did not come from his wing. Order was given by another.
DeleteWho gave the order to egg throw?
Is it the chancety?
Dear Anonymous at 10:16 pm,
DeleteIt was someone who supports the jungle.
DeleteWhat kind of person would even suggest throwing eggs. Is this for real or some kind of a joke. Tony ordot.
Absoloutely shocking this anti Archbishop group. I'm hearing its being fed by a group not even from Guam.
DeleteDear Anonymous at 10:50 pm,
DeleteIt would be an immature person. His comment can be found in the jungle weblink below:
http://www.junglewatch.info/2016/04/where-are-you-archbishop.html?showComment=1461307191708#c8995724174695903159
DeleteI can only assume it is a high school student throwing eggs.
Absoloutely shocking to our community.
DeleteImmature uneducated person would encourage egg throwing.
I went through Junglefolk listing .
It would not surprise me if chief egg thrower is on that list.
DeleteWe're anyone hit by eggs.?
I read comments.
Are the guests now protected from these deranged egg throwers.
Is Archbishop Tony aware of situation.?
Is Archbishop in control of situation.
Egg throwing being reported on other blogs.
Look violent dangerous Guam.
DeleteEgg thrower sounds delusional deranged.
Hard to believe a person would write such comments.
I wonder if egg thrower was at airport.
Thank God she did not throw eggs on arrival last night.
DeleteEgg throwers sound crazy to me.
Cant believe what happened at the airport. Frightening off tourists.
ReplyDeleteAlready protes is published in media other countries. What will others think of Guam?
ReplyDeleteThrowing of eggs 30 mins ago.
Millitant attitude.
Encouraging violence.
Don't go blaming the archbishop for the reason you protested.Youre all adults that still need to grow up.Throwing eggs? Seriously. How old are you all?
ReplyDelete
ReplyDeleteGennaranis are taking our money.
We pay for their flights.
We pay for their hotel
We even pay them stipend coming to Guam.
Im told $50,000 usd Apuron paying them.
Dear Anonymous at 8:41 pm,
DeleteWhat money did they take from you when you have not been contributing to the Church at all? Your money is still in your pocket.
DeleteWho are you 8,41pm?
Are you paid to write comments?
Have you any idea how insane comments?
DeleteProtestors are delusional
So frightened I think Archbishop needs protection.
These delusionals are disturbing Guam.
In your heart do you honestly believe Archbishop would give away $50,000.
DeleteOften these messages have no logic.
ReplyDeleteGennaranis came to take our money.
Money we gave to lent appeal is being given to Gennaranis. We paid their First Class travel hotel. Its our money belongs to Guam. We the people gave money. We did not give to them.
Dear Anonymous at 10:14 pm,
DeleteYou do not speak for the people of Guam. And you also did not give anything to the Annual Appeal because Tim Rohr told his followers to stop all money. So, your money is still in your pocket. Please check your wallet.
I watched people screaming into the face of Mr. Gennarani. It was frightening to watch. They were shouting what sounded like go home satan. Frightening to watch. I pray this never happens again.
ReplyDeleteNothing but a Tim hate followers ):(
ReplyDeleteWhy is no one addressing the ILLEGAL release of people's private travel info? Does the airport and airlines realize they are liable to being sued? The only way CCOG could have known about the Gennarinis arrival info is if someone at the airline or the airport leaked the info.
ReplyDeleteIf what happened to the Gennarinis had happened to anyone else they would be suing those who leaked the info.
Travel information is not private knowledge. Once you book an air ticket it becomes public knowledge which can be released to anyone requesting. I always request flight plan of Archbishop every time he leaves Guam. It is my right to know where he goes on my money.
ReplyDelete
DeleteAre you for real?
Who are you?
What is your purpose visiting NCW insights?
Are you desiring to learn about our way of life?
Dear Anonymous at 7:31 pm,
DeleteOnce you book an air ticket, it is PRIVATE. All passenger names and information on a flight are confidential information and are not made public. See my new post below:
http://neocatechemunal.blogspot.com/2016/04/airline-passenger-names.html
I wonder if all the Hollywood stars feel like that. Passenger manifests are private and whoever is giving u flight info is acting illegally and I wish I knew who it was I'd take them to court myself.
ReplyDeleteThe way people have been speaking about money is a Protestant interpretation. Only in protestant churches do they get to hire and fire their pastors. They believe that "I pay, I decide what happens in my church". Go become a Lutheran because the Catholic Church don't play that way. Bishop is not ur employee. He is ur spiritual leader.
Delete8.58pm it is common knowledge where to go to request travel plan of Archbishop Apuron.
His travel plans are available to the public just as the Gennaranis flights became public knowledge. I am happy to provide you names of the office releasing details. It is legal.
No. You are wrong. Flight manifests are private. Call your local airline. Whoever is leaking them is commiting a crime.
DeleteThe bishop, as most all bishops around the world do, can if he so chooses release his public schedule which will include travel IF HE FEELS like telling the public. The gennarinis did not release a public schedule so their flight info was leaked ILLEGALLY.
DeleteSources today reveal it was Archbishop Apuron himself who revealed the date and time of the Gennaranis arrival Thursday night. He revealed this information in his community sharing so it became public knowledge. In fact Fr. Pius then informed all the communities of their arrival Thursday night. That is why so may went to greet them.
Dear Anonymous at 3:25 pm,
DeleteFather Pius did not inform any of the communities nor did the Archbishop announce their arrival.
@Anon 7:31pm. I dont know about right to know passenger flight plans? You could be a terrorist plotting something for all I know. Where is TSA on this?
ReplyDelete
ReplyDeleteFr. Pius informed commnties.
Fr. Pius also posted Thursday nights arrival.
I have his post from Facebook.
He announces their visit. On his private face book page.
Dear Anonymous at 11:49 pm,
DeleteFather Pius does not have a Facebook page. In fact, he advised the community members not to have Facebook.
Face book page of Pius could be set up by another person. This could be true. If t is not Father Pius operating then best to contact facebook remove page.
ReplyDelete
ReplyDeleteThere is a face book page for Fr.Pius, diana. Though i suspect not opened by him.page is linked under the pius carmelites. Listed on several statements announcements of NCW Guam attributed to Fr pius. Please see.
Dear Anonymous at 11:21 am,
DeleteFather Pius does not have a facebook and he did not make any announcements to the communities of the Gennarinis' arrival. As I said, Father Pius even encouraged the brothers not to have any Facebook account.
ReplyDeleteFr pius as you report may not have a facebook. In not saying he does. What im saying there is a page qith his name pius carnelites. There are posts.
I think you are right it is not him . Nevertheless it causes confusion as it looks like him. He only need contact facebook and it is removed. Thats all im saying.
ReplyDeleteStop protests.