tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post9218107680733969373..comments2024-03-20T11:41:40.379+10:00Comments on Neocatechumenal Way - An Insider's View: Corporation SoleDianahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-36816747829673286322017-08-06T10:16:16.167+10:002017-08-06T10:16:16.167+10:00Learn some sarcasm. OK, were giving out award butt...Learn some sarcasm. OK, were giving out award buttons for what purpose? To award what? Fastest? Oldest? Most grandchildren? Most health ailments? Its an award button in appreciation for their participation for sure.<br /><br />Pas!<br />-Jokers Wild<br /><br />PS- you just don't want to believe that Untalan did stoop so low.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-15679577402247859122017-08-05T12:41:58.315+10:002017-08-05T12:41:58.315+10:00Diana I'm guessing when the need came out abou...Diana I'm guessing when the need came out about fr.wachs look at what the archdiocese say they said that they have no influence over the canonical trial I believe they are trying to get after The judges so they can get a guilty verdict and then on patty arroyo show she had a call by David Sablan and he was complaining about the seminary and when he was over guess what she did doing a disclaimer it doesn't involve his legal caseGod is onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06315440189194464509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-19344317693925619512017-08-05T12:02:21.282+10:002017-08-05T12:02:21.282+10:00Dear Anonymous at 11:10 am,
Mistaking an award b...Dear Anonymous at 11:10 am, <br /><br />Mistaking an award button for a certificate of appreciation is not lying. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-9055558092818182992017-08-05T11:10:25.209+10:002017-08-05T11:10:25.209+10:00Diana @ 0828: Frivolous? Maybe. BUT it's indic...Diana @ 0828: Frivolous? Maybe. BUT it's indicative of the fact that if Jokers Wild can lie about small things like certificates instead of buttons, he/she could also be lying about other things, like R. Untalan blocking access to the St. Andrew Kim church in the last paragraph. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-52135978033982859792017-08-05T08:28:42.848+10:002017-08-05T08:28:42.848+10:00Dear Anonymous at 11:21 pm,
So, you wanted to p...Dear Anonymous at 11:21 pm, <br /><br />So, you wanted to point out that it was not a certificate of appreciation, but an award button. That is so frivolous.Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-88804894350907921942017-08-05T03:25:19.326+10:002017-08-05T03:25:19.326+10:00And money for Lujan, too. And money for Lujan, too. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-57140795112278446632017-08-05T03:23:55.641+10:002017-08-05T03:23:55.641+10:00Archbishop Byrnes will decide seminary stays or go...Archbishop Byrnes will decide seminary stays or goes. Period. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-3686295827921205422017-08-04T23:21:16.219+10:002017-08-04T23:21:16.219+10:00Jokers Wild: In your 1:47 PM comment which I copie...Jokers Wild: In your 1:47 PM comment which I copied/pasted you wrote "Theyre gonna pass out CERTIFICATES OF APPRECIATION to all the picketers."<br /><br />I went to the jungle and I copied/pasted the actual sentence adding formatting for emphasis: "We'll be presenting <b>an award button</b> to everyone who picketed, even if it was just once!"<br /><br />I'm not sure how "award buttons" became "CERTIFICATES OF APPRECIATION." All you have to do is go to the jungle and check for yourself. <br /><br />Diana allowed your comment (which you admitted was outside the OP) to be published. I wonder if Diana will publish this correction to your comment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-23377869067849796482017-08-04T18:49:33.806+10:002017-08-04T18:49:33.806+10:00Alright a BBQ lets go. It's free food!!Alright a BBQ lets go. It's free food!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-78234809345481022382017-08-04T18:32:34.385+10:002017-08-04T18:32:34.385+10:006:57 The Laity went there with malicious intention...6:57 The Laity went there with malicious intention. Invite the media and yell and kick and throw tantrum like a bunch uncivilized scoundrel? Afterwards take a group picture! You may not agree this seminary is a gift from God to produce Priest to announce the gospel for those who suffers!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-33059187282524422722017-08-04T17:48:56.827+10:002017-08-04T17:48:56.827+10:00Really? Tim Rohr was Bob Klitzkey's teacher? A...Really? Tim Rohr was Bob Klitzkey's teacher? A non-lawyer taught a lawyer?<br />That's hilarious. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-31060777673283528322017-08-04T13:47:18.898+10:002017-08-04T13:47:18.898+10:00This is gonna be outside of the OP but I think its...This is gonna be outside of the OP but I think its just pathetic how the LFM is having an appreciation BBQ this Sunday in Agat. Theyre gonna pass out CERTIFICATES OF APPRECIATION to all the picketers. They are just dumb. I would take that certificate and keep it in remembrance of how they destroyed the church. lmao!<br />On a side note also. There was the recent raise of parish assessment fees owed to the chancery and those presenting at the meeting, mostly the finance officer and council mentioned that a good portion of it is to help Saint Francis school in their debt. Apparently there was some financial mishap there. I cant help but think about the Yona parish and how they were so vocal about not allowing the NCW into the parish now it seems as if we are being forced to help them. Maybe school and parish are separate but it smells the same for me.<br />Maybe the PDN should do an inquiry into that, they read your blog anyways.<br /><br />So the JP II seminary has been shut down and the seminarians have moved off to Saint Patricks but now they are openly asking for donations. Doesnt make sense.<br /><br />One last thing, Did you know that when R. Untalan was removed from the finance council, he revenged it by blocking access to Saint Andrew Kim Parish, which had been gaining access to the parish through way of his parcel. I felt sorry for all the korean brothers and sisters, they felt the wrath that they did not deserve.<br /><br />Pas!<br />-Jokers Wild Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-56487795228514283682017-08-04T11:44:49.488+10:002017-08-04T11:44:49.488+10:00diana look at what tim said in the comment section...diana look at what tim said in the comment section of the post when they showed at what happened to father wachs he said this As for what Lujan thinks, of course, he's David Lujan. He has a job to and he's doing it well. However, the canonical trial has nothing to do with Lujan's job. Lujan's job, as he has stated, is to get money for his clients.<br />Like · Reply · 1 · 21 mins and like how we have always said that this is just about moneyGod is onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06315440189194464509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-2264308104094923622017-08-04T10:48:32.032+10:002017-08-04T10:48:32.032+10:00RMS is incorporate separately from the Archbishop ...RMS is incorporate separately from the Archbishop - in other words, there are two corporations - one, a corporate sole (the Archbishop) and another, the Seminary, a separate incorporated body. Its actually not that hard to understand.<br /><br />In the case of ST John's , which is not incorporated, it falls under the activities of the corporate sole, the Archbishop.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-87949067081284323662017-08-04T07:21:03.179+10:002017-08-04T07:21:03.179+10:00What does humpty dumpty Bob have to say about his ...What does humpty dumpty Bob have to say about his great teacher Tim Rohr Now? 😁Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-45211726104813523922017-08-04T07:18:54.105+10:002017-08-04T07:18:54.105+10:00Dear Anonymous at 6:57 am,
Those particular lait...Dear Anonymous at 6:57 am, <br /><br />Those particular laity did not go there on a peaceful sight-seeing tour of RMS. They are the same people who want the seminary shut down and would take any opportunity to discredit it when they can. The other laity have no problems entering the seminary.Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-39404204835985132332017-08-04T06:57:46.005+10:002017-08-04T06:57:46.005+10:00I can surely tell you that the laity (a separate C...I can surely tell you that the laity (a separate Catholic group) was denied to even step onto the RMS hotel. So how is the RMS BENEFITTING the rest of the Catholic Church? Please don't continue the deceit. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-41016501575122130802017-08-04T06:39:44.993+10:002017-08-04T06:39:44.993+10:00Dear Anonymous at 3:02 am,
Really? Can you show ...Dear Anonymous at 3:02 am, <br /><br />Really? Can you show me where I constantly change my stories? Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-4581820234097133182017-08-04T03:02:58.995+10:002017-08-04T03:02:58.995+10:00Do you not think that brother tony and the neos ha...Do you not think that brother tony and the neos have used deceit in order for the neos to "solely" use the RMS to benefit just themselves and no one else? What other Catholic groups have been allowed to use the hotel besides the neos? Let's be honest here. You preach deceit yet there's been lots of deceit just for this hotel. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-68523686103691256072017-08-03T23:15:55.002+10:002017-08-03T23:15:55.002+10:00Dear Anonymous at 8:20 pm,
The purpose of this p...Dear Anonymous at 8:20 pm, <br /><br />The purpose of this post is to simply show the deceit of the jungle. There is an important lesson to be learned here. In the first place, God did not wipe out the earth. He wiped out wickedness and saved only 8 righteous people, that of Noah and his family. God would not use deceit to destroy something. He allows deceit to happen only because He respects the free will of His creatures, but deceit in itself is a wickedness. It is that wickedness (deceit) that needs to be exposed and destroyed. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-73464558185410180762017-08-03T23:07:17.324+10:002017-08-03T23:07:17.324+10:00Why do you want to stand by and watch something go...Why do you want to stand by and watch something good for the people of Guam, for Catholics on Guam, be taken away and do nothing to stop it or ask why? That is exactly how the Nazis were able to kill millions of Jewish people during the WWII. Ask why so that you know whether the decision to sell it is right or not...otherwise watch indifferently and pretend that there is nothing wrong with blind obedience.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-12286816803387706082017-08-03T20:20:10.635+10:002017-08-03T20:20:10.635+10:00What does it matter now whether it's a corpora...What does it matter now whether it's a corporation sole or not? Why not just accept that the RMS hotel is going to be sold. Everything is on the chopping block. Do material things matter? Is this what makes a church or is it the people which the Lord has chosen to Shepard? Do you think that the Lord would not of made this happen if he didn't want it to happen? The Lord has wiped out the earth before so what makes us think we know better?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-75918875073283915212017-08-03T19:58:43.610+10:002017-08-03T19:58:43.610+10:00Dear Anonymous at 7:49 pm,
Did you read the dict...Dear Anonymous at 7:49 pm, <br /><br />Did you read the dictionary I quoted in the OP. It says (capitalization is mine): <br /><br />Corporation sole is defined as: "a Public office (created usually by an act of parliament) or ecclesiastical office (usually the owner of church land) that has a SEPARATE and continuing legal existence, and only one member (the sole officeholder)....."<br /><br />Did you see the word "separate" in there? <br /><br />Furthermore, this is what Rohr said in 2015:<br /><br />"....we do know for certain. St. John's Seminary is a corporation sole - meaning it belongs to the office of the Archbishop of Los Angeles."<br /><br />Today, this is what he stated:<br /><br />"Even if a "seminary" in California could be a corporation sole (it can't because corporation sole are actual persons),..." Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-83292068142871955402017-08-03T19:49:20.146+10:002017-08-03T19:49:20.146+10:00Nothing of what Tim Rohr wroite in 2015 is in the ...Nothing of what Tim Rohr wroite in 2015 is in the least bit contradictory to what he and Bob Klitzke are saying. St. John's Seminary is not separately incorporated and is therefore simply an activity of the corporation sole, namely the Bishop. <br /><br />RMS is separately incoporated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-86912718402798496172017-08-03T18:39:41.663+10:002017-08-03T18:39:41.663+10:00Dear Anonymous at 5:38 pm,
For all his intellige...Dear Anonymous at 5:38 pm, <br /><br />For all his intelligence, I was surprised that Klitzkie simply swallowed everything Rohr said. I would think that he would at least use a dictionary to look up "corporation sole" before making his humpty dumpty post. I guess not. I'm also still waiting for Mr. Klitzkie to tell Archbishop Byrnes that the Grant Deed is incorrect because it does not have the signatures of the RMS Board of Directors and Board of Guarantors. After all, even a real estate agent knows that the owner has to sign papers when giving up his property.Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.com