tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post8779152849832851841..comments2024-03-20T11:41:40.379+10:00Comments on Neocatechumenal Way - An Insider's View: Interesting News From The Vatican InsiderDianahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comBlogger130125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-68812441051407104172017-11-13T14:50:10.512+10:002017-11-13T14:50:10.512+10:00A one-sided BishopA one-sided BishopAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-81985198062676233292017-11-13T11:55:16.248+10:002017-11-13T11:55:16.248+10:00I agree. The NCW in other parts of the world are t...I agree. The NCW in other parts of the world are tolerated, and they leave them alone. It's only here in Guam that we face persecution cuz they seek our destruction. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-11312410273930055372017-11-13T09:50:55.501+10:002017-11-13T09:50:55.501+10:00Zoltan,
I commend you for all the work you have d...Zoltan,<br /><br />I commend you for all the work you have done to protect the Church. Even the way you defend Byrnes is admirable. If anything in me may come across as intransigent or rude towards Byrnes is my desire for him to acknowledge that the situation in Guam is grossly corrupted by the special-interest ideologues of the island. I know that it takes heroic virtue (which I don't have and the reason I remain anonymous), if not almost divine virtue, in order to face that crowd (which you have first hand experience and scars as witness of your love for the Church), however, it is TRUE... indeed VERY TRUE... that if the Church/Byrnes gives in to this activism mentality, what stop the 'enemy' from coercing her in the future? This will create precedent whose waves will ripple across the secular anti-Catholic world. Any pact with the Devil is surely a failure. You either reject it altogether or it will never come to a good end, by experience. I pray for Byrnes, I want him to be the best Bishop he could be, but if he is making a mistake (from my subjective point of view) I have to follow my conscience, ethically and because in front of God that is all he will ask of me... What did you DO??? To hope for the best is not good enough IMHO.<br /><br />I am sadden that my zeal for the Church is construed as hurting the legitimate authority of the Church or hatred towards the junglefolks, however, God will be the judge of each of us for what we did and didn't do in this very difficult time in the history of the Catholic Church in Guam.<br /><br />I pray that Tim Rohr and his beautiful family escape the consequences of what he is doing (by the mercy of the wounds of Christ I hope he is not already paying for that without knowing why). Nothing done out of zeal for Christ is a mistake, out of zeal for Christ everything is forgivable, even when they are wrong, or badly done... however, if the sin is deliberate... God's patience has a limit and he assures us...<br /><br />“So have no fear of them; for nothing is covered that will not be revealed, or hidden that will not be known. What I tell you in the dark, utter in the light; and what you hear whispered, proclaim upon the housetops. And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul; rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell. Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? And not one of them will fall to the ground without your Father’s will. But even the hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not, therefore; you are of more value than many sparrows. So every one who acknowledges me before men, I also will acknowledge before my Father who is in heaven; but whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven." Mt 10:26-33<br /><br />IMHO the problem in Guam is only one. Pride... Satanic Pride... Satanic Wounded Pride. All that Apuron is bearing right now is what happens when God wants to do something really great and wonderful on earth. The devil arises and through pride he seeks to divide us to destroy the work that God wants done. I pray for Apuron, I wish for him the Holy Spirit who would make of him a Saint, but Apuron has to ask for this Spirit in order to enter the Cross... NO ONE can demand it from him... So, if Apuron screams JUSTICE... I am next to him to plead his cause... if in the future he decides to bear injustices upon himself, I will be there with him interceding for his enemies... cause they don't know what they are doing.<br /><br />There is a great difference between NCW/Apuron and the jungle who rejoices in defaming, ridiculing and insulting their enemies. What drives them? Who knows? but the facts are written in history.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-85656860849124492502017-11-13T09:01:24.053+10:002017-11-13T09:01:24.053+10:00Anon. 7:42 read the article in the Vatican Insider...Anon. 7:42 read the article in the Vatican Insider again. If it was just the Mass, JW would have been satisfied that the Way obeyed. But no, they demand the removal of the NCW in the parishes. That alone says they had an agenda, and the Mass was only used as an excuse to hide their real agenda. Read the post Diana posted in the Vatican Insider.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-56181057484468293062017-11-13T08:40:13.657+10:002017-11-13T08:40:13.657+10:00Dear Anonymous at 7:42 am,
Do not change the sub...Dear Anonymous at 7:42 am, <br /><br />Do not change the subject. We are speaking about Guam, not the entire world. As I said, the Mass was NEVER the problem. The NCW obeyed, but the jungle CONTINUES to call for the destruction of the NCW. You and Archbishop Byrnes have been deceived by the jungle......plain and simple.Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-41495920767452319742017-11-13T08:35:35.269+10:002017-11-13T08:35:35.269+10:00Dear Anonymous, if you read what I wrote about the...Dear Anonymous, if you read what I wrote about the "predator bill", you'll see that I talked about its proponents who are the wayward in the flock, the jungle and CCoG. The authors of this bill are Rohr and Klitzkie. I have stood up against this bill at the public hearing protecting the interest of the diocese and defending NCW. I had my encounter with the beast who created this situation face to face. I was left alone with that. Let me quote:<br /><br />"The damage had been inflicted upon all of us and can never be undone. We and the next generations of Guam Catholics will pay the price tag for their recklessness! (...) The posterity will look back on these events of 2016-2020 as the dark age of Guam Catholicism when a church group viciously and vigorously maimed the whole diocese for the fun of it, absolutely unnecessarily and with no good reason.<br /><br />During these terrible events that have happened and will happen to Guam Catholics, our only hope is the legitimate leadership of our local church, including our Archbishops, that they will follow the footsteps of our Lord to lead the wayward back to the flock."<br /><br />Thanks for your understanding. Zoltanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10881244654285854387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-33076583107005332902017-11-13T07:42:22.765+10:002017-11-13T07:42:22.765+10:00You are missing the point. The Mass is a separate...You are missing the point. The Mass is a separate issue. The Mass although corrected in Guam, remains uncorrected worldwide.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-84891095490131723782017-11-13T06:16:17.995+10:002017-11-13T06:16:17.995+10:00Dear Anonymous at 2:32 am,
Please open your eyes...Dear Anonymous at 2:32 am, <br /><br />Please open your eyes and face reality. The Mass was NEVER the problem. The jungle deceived you into thinking that the place we celebrated the Mass in was the issue. After Archbishop Byrnes instructed us to hold the Eucharist inside the church building, the NCW obeyed. In fact, we did not complain about celebrating the Eucharist in the church building. However, the jungle STILL called for the destruction of the NCW. Therefore, YOU were the one deceived. <br /><br />Bringing the NCW into the church building did not bring unity because the jungle still called for the destruction of the NCW. You and Archbishop Byrnes were deceived.Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-75352028859855142452017-11-13T02:32:43.094+10:002017-11-13T02:32:43.094+10:00Re DianaSeptember 23
I applaud Archbishop Byrnes ...Re DianaSeptember 23<br /><br />I applaud Archbishop Byrnes in his attempts for ONE Body of Christ. The restrictions he placed on the NCW regarding their Mass should not be seen as persecution of the NCW but "pastoral correction" which is still not being realized. <br />Cardinal Arinze's letter back in 2005 with Pope Benedicts's confirmation in 2006 were greatly ignored to the point where the 2005 letter was not even given to the NCW groups, but Kiko's interpretation of it.<br />. . . So Diana, when you say "The problem is Rohr's interpretation of them. He has been twisting those documents in a way to deceive people into believing what he wants them to believe." - this statement also can apply to the leader(s) of the NCW.<br /><br />In light of the deception of the Most Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, I would not judge Archbishop Byrnes too harshly - we learn to trust people who are trustworthy, and to doubt those who we've found deceptive. <br />Praying that we are may be ONE.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-20046369833249411772017-11-13T00:54:00.579+10:002017-11-13T00:54:00.579+10:00Dear Zoltan,
You have characterize our plight for...Dear Zoltan,<br /><br />You have characterize our plight for justice for Apuron as:<br /><br />"...the only thing I see from your comment is that you --intend to hurt-- those who were or are legitimate leaders of our church."<br />Zoltan November 10, 2017 at 9:19 AM<br /><br />"Claiming equality with God is used to be considered as --heretical-- in the history of the Catholic Church."<br />Zoltan November 11, 2017 at 2:41 PM<br />(granted that you are totally misunderstanding our comments)<br /><br />"jungle and CCoG treat the NCW as their enemy, we also tend to treat them as our enemies. By your comments I see that --you even take our legitimate leaders as your enemies.--"<br />Zoltan November 9, 2017 at 7:02 PM<br />(You are equating my calling to conversion of a Bishop to the 'Alinskyite-activism', the 'deliberate defamation' of a person, the missionary distroction of a legitimate charism of the Church, and in your words, comparing us to "a church group (that) viciously and vigorously maimed the whole diocese" => troublemakers)<br /><br />Zoltan, what you seem to miss from my post is the problem that the Jungle and their gang of thugs are driven by an ideology which goes far beyond the few operative protests demanding Apuron's "DEFROCKING". Alinskyite leftists quite simply do not believe in the one Holy Catholic Apostolic Church (they are ready to bring down the Vatican if they must) -- if not, they would be asking for a census of the faithful, reflecting the real sentiment of the faithful in Guam, which THEY KNOW they do not represent --, which is why they’re so willing to violate the norms of justice and focus on banging the pots and pans until THEIR WILL IS DONE.<br /><br />If the Church gives into injustices because of the level of noise made by an ideological group, then that is the formula that can be used by any 'anti-catholic' group to bend the will of the Church to do their will... or at least to threaten them into submission.<br /><br />If this is too hard to understand... I can't help you there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-69546640793897147812017-11-12T21:12:45.357+10:002017-11-12T21:12:45.357+10:00Praying return Archbishop Apuron.Praying return Archbishop Apuron.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-78991950971334411342017-11-12T20:25:26.960+10:002017-11-12T20:25:26.960+10:00Dear Zoltan,
As Anonymous has clearly stated no ...Dear Zoltan, <br /><br />As Anonymous has clearly stated no one claimed that Archbishop Apuron is Christ. I am sorry that you misunderstood the statement I made, but that is the whole purpose of clarification. The clarification was already made; therefore, it is unnecessary to beat a dead horse. <br /><br />I am glad to hear that you are praying for Archbishop Apuron's return. We are all praying for him.Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-13966365331016693712017-11-12T11:09:17.976+10:002017-11-12T11:09:17.976+10:00Dear Diana, you are right that we may share in the...Dear Diana, you are right that we may share in the divine nature of holiness through our faith in Jesus who is both fully divine and fully human. This is the meaning of what St. Athanasius wrote down and CCC quoted from him (St. Athanasius, De inc. 54, 3: PG 25, 192B). CCC does not teach that we can be existentially identical with God, but we may share in His divine nature of holiness. <br /><br />We need Jesus in our lives at every moment because we are sinners, we have the original sin that predisposes us to sinning. Jesus saved us by His excruciating death on the cross that He suffered for us, taught us how to overcome sin and be holy. God says in Pet 1:16: "Be holy as I am holy." <br /><br />The prospect of Christian life is walking away from sin and thus overcoming sin by following Jesus. Our Catholic saints show us examples how can we be holy. No one is holy because one says so. Mother Teresa has never said she was holy. But one becomes holy, thus overcoming sinful nature, by one's entire life in Jesus. It is a distinctive feature of Catholic faith that we recognize our saints as holy and celebrate their sharing in divine nature. Zoltanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10881244654285854387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-71197104093788539632017-11-12T10:52:12.710+10:002017-11-12T10:52:12.710+10:00Dear Anonymous, I have never called you or Diana &...Dear Anonymous, I have never called you or Diana "troublemakers, disobedient, heretical". Please, quote me if I have ever said that. What Mother Teresa talks about here is the presence and not the existence of Christ. She tells us that Christ is present in the suffering, so we may discover Him in their faces. She is not saying Christ is identical with those who suffer. One has to recognize the slight differences between different meanings of words and expressions. We can share in the divine nature of holiness through our faith in Jesus. <br /><br />I am having trouble with this statement from Diana: "I never said that Archbishop Apuron is Christ. I said that Christ is Archbishop Apuron because he is suffering an injustice." These sentences contain logical contradiction. <br /><br />I keep praying for the safe return of Archbishop Apuron to the island. I'll keep praying until he is back. His fate is in the hands of the Vatican Tribunal that has already made its verdict. The Tribunal is the only authentic body inside the church to make judgment in the charges that the Tribunal has investigated. This is my understanding. Perhaps I am wrong, then please, correct me. <br /><br />We owe loyalty to our legitimate church leaders who set up the pastoral agenda for our diocese. If the evangelization agenda is in temporal conflict with the pastoral agenda, then it is the duty of our leaders to reconcile different approaches and make meaningful compromises where it is needed. Is there any other way to govern a diocese?Zoltanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10881244654285854387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-71736489725615250472017-11-12T08:43:27.715+10:002017-11-12T08:43:27.715+10:00Dear Anonymous at 3:34 am,
Exactly. You said it...Dear Anonymous at 3:34 am, <br /><br />Exactly. You said it better than I did. Thank you for your comment.Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-22232359153620751382017-11-12T03:34:06.155+10:002017-11-12T03:34:06.155+10:00Zoltan,
Do not forget that at the end of our live...Zoltan,<br /><br />Do not forget that at the end of our lives we will not be judged by how many budgets we balanced, how many economic problems we solved, if you left a sustainable diocese or not, how much money we were able to raise or how many great things we have done… <br /><br />We will be judged by: "I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me."<br /><br />... and as Saint Mother Teresa of Calcutta would say to you:<br />"Hungry not only for bread— but hungry for love, Naked not only for clothing—but naked of human dignity and respect, Homeless not only for want of a home of bricks—but homeless because of rejection." -- Mother Teresa<br /><br />Don’t you think Apuron is thirsting for justice? His naked (embarrassing) situation demands that you at least respecting his human dignity?, He is now a stranger in a foreign land, destitute from Guam, the place that he loves and where he was born, is that not real ‘homelessness’?, Apuron is sick with all the lies and fabrications being leveled at him, sick because NOT EVEN HIS BROTHER BISHOP believes him, but publicly states that Guam is better off without him; neglecting his cry for justice; Apuron is hungry for YOU to understand the injustice done to him, who is the ordinary of Guam? He is in the prison of public opinion, and even when WE try to free him, you call ME and DIANE, troublemakers, disobedient, heretical, trying to hurt, etc.<br /><br />If you are committing a sin, an injustice, and I call you on it, how can that be hurting? The only thing hurt is pride, image, public opinion, etc. Now explain to me why is the pride, image, public opinion of Byrnes more important than that of Apuron?<br /><br />NOBODY is saying the Apuron or NCW is GOD or Christ himself... but rather, what you find hard to understand is that...<br /><br />“We are taught from the very moment to discover Christ under the distressing disguise of the poor, the sick, the outcasts. Christ present Himself to us under every disguise: the dying, the paralytic, the leper, the invalid, the orphan.” – Saint Mother Teresa of CalcuttaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-63440814825405921032017-11-11T15:46:35.708+10:002017-11-11T15:46:35.708+10:00Dear Zoltan,
Christ said,"If you persecute ...Dear Zoltan, <br /><br />Christ said,"If you persecute the least of your brothers, you persecute Me." The question is do you believe these words from Christ or not? <br /><br />According to the Catechism of the Catholic Church:<br /><br />CCC 460 The Word became flesh to make us "partakers of the divine nature":"For this is why the Word became man, and the Son of God became the Son of man: so that man, by entering into communion with the Word and thus receiving divine sonship, might become a son of God." "For the Son of God became man so that we might become God." "The only-begotten Son of God, wanting to make us sharers in his divinity, assumed our nature, so that he, made man, might make men gods."<br /><br />Is the Catechism saying that we are to be equal with God? Of course not. We are to be like Christ. Just as Christ shared in our humanity, Christ desire that we share in His divinity. Do you understand what that means? Do you know what it means to be one with Christ?<br /><br />Christ said, "If you persecute the least of your brothers, you persecute ME." "Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting ME?" Since Christ said these words, then why is it difficult for you to believe that Christ is Archbishop Apuron and the NCW being persecuted? Any persecution of Christians is a persecution of Christ for they are one.Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-91340893792059328632017-11-11T14:41:47.147+10:002017-11-11T14:41:47.147+10:00Dear Diana, CCC states God is existence and and ma...Dear Diana, CCC states God is existence and and man is the image. Not the other way around. CCC also says the Catholic Church is the Body of Christ. It is not the same as Christ, but we carry on His body on Earth. To be part of the Body of Christ we must not drift away from the Church and its legitimate leaders. <br /><br />Have another look, please, of what you stated: "I never said that Archbishop Apuron is Christ. I said that Christ is Archbishop Apuron because he is suffering an injustice." You claim equality of X with Y, but deny equality of Y with X. The contradiction is not coming from science or physics. It is coming from simple logic. Christ is a single being. If X = Y then also Y = X. God gave us pure logic to guide our mind and reasoning. If you don't see that you owe an explanation here, then what else can I tell you?<br /><br />Claiming equality with God is used to be considered as heretical in the history of the Catholic Church. In Isaiah 55:8-9 Christ says<br /><br />"For my thoughts are not your thoughts,<br /> nor are your ways my ways, says the Lord.<br />For as the heavens are higher than the earth,<br /> so are my ways higher than your ways<br /> and my thoughts than your thoughts."Zoltanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10881244654285854387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-17316173939780399402017-11-11T14:01:14.858+10:002017-11-11T14:01:14.858+10:00Dear Zoltan,
It is possible and in no way crypti...Dear Zoltan, <br /><br />It is possible and in no way cryptic talk. For example, man is created in the image and likeness of God. But in no way is God in the image and likeness of man. That is in the Catechism of the Catholic Church. <br /><br />CCC 370 In no way is God in man's image. He is neither man nor woman. God is pure spirit in which there is no place for the difference between the sexes. But the respective "perfections" of man and woman reflect something of the infinite perfection of God: those of a mother and those of a father and husband.<br /><br />It does not make sense to you because you think only in scientific terms. God is outside the laws of physics. What is impossible for you is possible for God. <br /><br />Christ said, "Whoever persecutes the least of his brothers persecutes ME." Chrust said this. Christ is the truth and he does not lie. And Archbishop Apuron and the NCW are the ones being persecuted.Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-42651964740055420502017-11-11T13:20:52.253+10:002017-11-11T13:20:52.253+10:00Dear Diana, you are right that I got confused of w...Dear Diana, you are right that I got confused of what you say. You stated "I never said that Archbishop Apuron is Christ. I said that Christ is Archishop Apuron because he is suffering an injustice."<br /><br />In my translation you claim X equals Y, but Y doesn't equal X. How is this possible? I am sorry, but this does not make sense to me at all. Could you help me out, please? <br /><br />You must be using words in a different meaning that you didn't reveal. Thus it becomes cryptic talk that people with a normal sense are unable to follow. Zoltanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10881244654285854387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-39315340745672996392017-11-11T13:07:21.029+10:002017-11-11T13:07:21.029+10:00Dear Zoltan,
Anonymous 5:34 am stated: "I h...Dear Zoltan, <br /><br />Anonymous 5:34 am stated: "I have to side with whom I believe is Christ (the ones upon whom injustices are falling on) that is Apuron and the NCW."<br /><br />I stated that I agreed with his/her comment. Then you asked," in what sense do you say Archbishop Apuron and the NCW are Christ?" So, I clarified my answer for you, but you still did not understand. I never said that Archbishop Apuron is Christ. I said that Christ is Archishop Apuron because he is suffering an injustice. <br /><br />What does it mean to you when I stated that we are one with Christ and that Christ is found in the weak, the poor, the suffering, and the persecuted? Anonymous and I agree that Christ is Archbishop Apuron and the NCW because that is where the injustices are falling upon. <br /><br />Archbishop Byrnes follows CCOG.Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-33414545981510343012017-11-11T12:45:03.325+10:002017-11-11T12:45:03.325+10:00Dear Diana, there is a slight difference between s...Dear Diana, there is a slight difference between seeing Jesus in the eyes of the suffering and claiming that you are Jesus! Mother Teresa had never said she was Jesus. As Christians, we all would like to live like Jesus is in us. We invite Him as our Lord and Savior to live in our hearts. But how could this turn us into Jesus himself?! There is only one Jesus in history of whom the Apostle says "You are the Christ!"<br /><br />When Catholic Christians are persecuted, it is because of their Catholic Christian faith. Their faith in the only Son of God, Jesus Christ, is the very reason they are persecuted. ISIS executed Christians for their confession of faith. This is the meaning of persecution. Potentially hurting your self-serving interest and causing discomfort with a purpose of pastoral care for the archdiocese is not persecution. <br /><br />You say "RMS can sustain itself without the help of the Archdiocese." Well, then it should have been proved to the Archbishop by demonstrating hard evidence. Can you deposit the projected operation cost for the next 10 years into a vault and hand it over to him? That would be an assurance. Words by themselves do not constitute assurance of long term sustainability as established by financial experts.Zoltanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10881244654285854387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-45265574926559818922017-11-11T11:30:47.978+10:002017-11-11T11:30:47.978+10:00Dear Zoltan,
Archbishop Apuron and the NCW are o...Dear Zoltan, <br /><br />Archbishop Apuron and the NCW are one with Christ. Christ is in the poor, the humble, the weak, the downtrodden, the persecuted, and all those who do the will of God. Even Mother Teresa stated that she was able to see Christ in the poor. For whatever you do to the least of your brothers, you do to me (Christ). When the Apostle Paul persecuted Christians, Jesus appeared to him and said, “Saul, Saul, why do you persecute ME?” Jesus never asked Paul why he persecuted Christians. Any persecution on Christians is a persecution on Christ.<br /><br />I never said that Archbishop Byrnes’ moratorium would make us stronger. I said persecution makes us one with Christ. RMS can sustain itself without the help of the Archdiocese; therefore, Archbishop Byrnes was incorrect. His real reason for closing the Seminary was to sell the property to pay for the settlement of the alleged victims. Anonymous has already answered your question as to why Archbishop Byrnes is persecuting the NCW.Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-4562489310561929172017-11-11T08:36:07.427+10:002017-11-11T08:36:07.427+10:00Dear Diana, in what sense do you say Archbishop A...Dear Diana, in what sense do you say Archbishop Apuron and the NCW are Christ? The Holy Bible states there is only one Christ, our Lord Jesus. The Apostle St. Peter reveals about Jesus in Matt 16:16: “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” <br /><br />One's suffering may bring one closer to Christ. It would align your mind with that of our Lord. But how would suffering "turn" you into Christ? We should be careful how we use words with given meaning. Shifting the commonly understood meaning of words could undermine good communication and turn what you say into cryptic talk. <br /><br />You said Archbishop Byrnes' request not to form new NCW communities on Guam for a couple of months would not hurt NCW, but makes it stronger. It allows NCW to expand in the region to Saipan and Palau. We also celebrate the weekly mass in beautiful, consecrated church buildings. The reason of closing the RMS, we heard, is that it has serious issues of long term sustainability in the given environment. Why do you say the Archbishop is hurting us, his own flock in Jesus? Zoltanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10881244654285854387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-27471677115785877142017-11-10T23:50:19.513+10:002017-11-10T23:50:19.513+10:00Dear Zoltan,
It is the legitimate leader of the ...Dear Zoltan, <br /><br />It is the legitimate leader of the Church, Archbishop Byrnes, who is hurting the NCW. Archbishop Byrnes placed a moratorium on the NCW for a year. The NCW was also told not to evangelize on Guam. That is the reason why the NCW in Guam went to the other Pacific islands to evangelize. RMS will also shut down by the end of this year. I agree with Anonymous 5:34 am. I also side with whom I believe is Christ, and that would be Archbishop Apuron and the NCW. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.com