tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post7907562052342064592..comments2024-03-20T11:41:40.379+10:00Comments on Neocatechumenal Way - An Insider's View: The Turning PointDianahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-57945974419145429062016-03-25T11:22:36.958+10:002016-03-25T11:22:36.958+10:00Dear Anonymous at 5:26 pm,
In the first place, w...Dear Anonymous at 5:26 pm, <br /><br />In the first place, what make you even think that we had any business with DLM? Where did you get that insane idea? Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-88564269555060400542016-03-24T17:27:42.918+10:002016-03-24T17:27:42.918+10:00Those individuals who want to collectively blame a...Those individuals who want to collectively blame and charge the Neocatechumenal Way for the internal business of the DLM must be firmly refuted. There is no such thing as collective responsibility for whatever is done in some government office. Collective responsibility and collective blame is always false, without any exception! <br /><br />It is like you cannot blame the family of Rohr for his hateful actions and propaganda. There is no collective guilt, it is only Rohr who is culpable for his dealing and not his family. The same way it is only former senator Klitzkie who want to link DLM internal business with the NCW. He is the only person who is responsible for this effort and not his family. There is no collective responsibility and collective culpability. Everyone has to stand for his or her own action.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-39447128669671262642016-03-24T17:26:16.841+10:002016-03-24T17:26:16.841+10:00Diana, you should make it very clear, that NCW has...Diana, you should make it very clear, that NCW has no business with any internal dealing at the Division of Land Management. <br /><br />If there was or wasn't any mishandling of the certificate of title or its correction process, it is an internal matter of the DLM and the local government. The NCW has nothing to do with that, either way it turns out to be. Those who claim otherwise are liars.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-74649579038568329312016-03-23T09:41:45.799+10:002016-03-23T09:41:45.799+10:00Dear Anonymous at 8:44 am,
Your comment already ...Dear Anonymous at 8:44 am, <br /><br />Your comment already shows that you do not want the property to be a seminary; therefore, the only good you can get out of it is either to sell it or turn it into a business venture (such as a casino maybe). Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-44366470511866161332016-03-23T08:44:11.144+10:002016-03-23T08:44:11.144+10:00Who said anything about selling the property? The...Who said anything about selling the property? The point is that the seminary can exist without them being at Yona property. I think you have missed the point...we have already proved the point to Rome...exposing the problems of this archdiocese. In fact, this blog has helped to promote the exposure....thanks for helping our cause. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-9780608921524060102016-03-22T18:42:58.893+10:002016-03-22T18:42:58.893+10:00Dear Anonymous at 6:39 pm,
In a democratic socie...Dear Anonymous at 6:39 pm, <br /><br />In a democratic society, the courts exist to settle disputes and to interpret the law. The laws and regulations says what it says according to how the court (or in this case, the Office of the Attorney General) interpret it to be. You have no authority to interpret laws. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-79068124695555453062016-03-22T18:39:53.780+10:002016-03-22T18:39:53.780+10:00"You do not need a judge, lawyer, and jury to..."You do not need a judge, lawyer, and jury to decide on something where there is no dispute. "<br /><br />Unless its mandated by the alws and regulations. If it is set down that the matter is to be resolved in court, even if there is no "dispute", then it ought to be resolved in court.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-70082863421087214692016-03-22T18:39:26.155+10:002016-03-22T18:39:26.155+10:00Dear Anonymous at 6:29 pm,
That is not what the ...Dear Anonymous at 6:29 pm, <br /><br />That is not what the CT reads. It reads, "This is to certify that the Archbishop of Agana, corporation sole is the owner of the property." The Archbishop never needed an approval from Rome or the Finance Council because it was never an "alienation." It only becomes an alienation if the owner is NOT the Archbishop, which is not the case. <br /><br />Anonymous, what makes you think that the new Archbishop will even sell the RMS property and put the seminarians somewhere else? Do you not see that even after trying for three years to remove Archbishop Apuron, you were unsuccessful. So, what makes you think that Rome will follow you when they have been silent to your cause for three years? Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-63630808627782771242016-03-22T18:29:12.411+10:002016-03-22T18:29:12.411+10:00The CT proves that the property is in favor of RMS...The CT proves that the property is in favor of RMS....but if you continue to believe that the Archdiocese owns the property, then the new Archbishop can cancel the deed restriction without a need to get approval from the board of RMS, the guarantors and the Vatican. This was all done completely without approval from Rome and the finance council, so it can be completely reserved without Rome and other approvals. The seminarians can move to another building owned by the archdiocese....so really they don't need to be there. We only need to get a new Archbishop....four more years to go....we can wait.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-51426803105637091932016-03-22T18:28:12.383+10:002016-03-22T18:28:12.383+10:00Dear Anonymous at 6:21 pm,
The law was followed....Dear Anonymous at 6:21 pm, <br /><br />The law was followed. The courts exist only to settle disputes. There was no dispute between the Archdiocese of Agana and the Department of Land Management. Both agree that a correction should be made. You do not need a judge, lawyer, and jury to decide on something where there is no dispute. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-35913693917789232482016-03-22T18:21:18.267+10:002016-03-22T18:21:18.267+10:00Following the LAW. It is very simpleFollowing the LAW. It is very simpleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-13768576394971595922016-03-22T09:54:46.168+10:002016-03-22T09:54:46.168+10:00Dear Anonymous at 8:13 am,
As a result of the se...Dear Anonymous at 8:13 am, <br /><br />As a result of the seminaries on Guam, we have more priests in our diocese that we can send some of them out to evangelize for the Universal Church. :-) Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-59829294879158940062016-03-22T08:13:10.788+10:002016-03-22T08:13:10.788+10:00Not much truth about borrowing priest from the Phi...Not much truth about borrowing priest from the Philippines. Till this day there are a hand full of priest on loan from the Philippines Yigo, Inarajan, Piti, the list goes on. Yet more than half of the RMS priest ordained on GUam can't be accounted for. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-18284632009424678502016-03-22T07:55:43.140+10:002016-03-22T07:55:43.140+10:00Dear Anonymous at 7:22 am,
I am sorry that you a...Dear Anonymous at 7:22 am, <br /><br />I am sorry that you are upset because you are unable to sell the RMS property as a result of the Declaration of Deed Restriction. But look at the bright side.......Guam no longer needs to borrow priests from the Philippines. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-39159051480663644882016-03-22T07:22:32.137+10:002016-03-22T07:22:32.137+10:00Diana
The declaration of deed is exactly what the...Diana<br /><br />The declaration of deed is exactly what the jungle wanted to point out that is that the property will be used by RMS forever. However the Archbishop clearly wanted to keep that secret until it was questioned. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-56694869110691305402016-03-22T00:08:12.030+10:002016-03-22T00:08:12.030+10:00Dear Anonymous at 6:24 pm,
You stated: "Sen...Dear Anonymous at 6:24 pm, <br /><br />You stated: "Senator Klitzkie found out that you restored the foreign ownership of the seminary without proper authorization from the court." <br /><br />We did no such thing. It was the Department of Land Management who saw it proper to cancel the old certificates and issued new ones as directed by the Assistant Attorney General. Anonymous, no one here ever bragged about Tim or Kliztkie going to jail. It was Tim and Klitzkie who got all excited hoping that Monsignor David and the Archbishop would go to jail. You were warned that the more you exault yourself and relish in the misfortune of other people, you will fall. <br /><br />The jungle complained that the certificates of titles were wrong because it did not have the Declaration of Deed Restriction in the memorial. Well, now that the Declaration of Deed Restriction is in the memorial....what now is the problem?? You are still complaining??? Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-59315218516954790292016-03-21T19:36:09.456+10:002016-03-21T19:36:09.456+10:00People that have been taken for a ride now realize...People that have been taken for a ride now realize....turning point..that there is no one steering the ship they eagerly board for a cruise. Some one took their money...their trust and abandoned ship.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12185055147538835766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-58152519363619764932016-03-21T18:24:37.832+10:002016-03-21T18:24:37.832+10:00Diana, Tim Rohr told you with no uncertain terms t...Diana, Tim Rohr told you with no uncertain terms that the ownership is exactly what is in question. Even more, it is not in question at all, because the deed restriction is an effectual transfer of property(!!), factual transfer of ownership to a foreign entity, see at fee simple conveyance. <br /><br />Senator Klitzkie found out that you restored the foreign ownership of the seminary without proper authorization from the court. Only interested parties could have initiated the correction. This is against Guam public law and puts all records in danger at the Land Management. Try to grasp that this is much bigger than you think. It is a corruption scheme caught in action. Like a dirty hand in the cookie jar. Do you get it?<br /><br />The nook is getting tighter as you foolishly pull the rope around your own neck. Some people will end up receiving jail time while you are bragging over and over again that the title certification was restored to its original form, all favor or ownership is due to the foreign entity.<br /><br />What are you so proud of, Diana? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-38609259894771629672016-03-21T10:42:49.906+10:002016-03-21T10:42:49.906+10:00Dear Anonymous at 10:08 am,
I call it the "t...Dear Anonymous at 10:08 am,<br /><br />I call it the "turning point" because after three years of conflict, this is the point where many confused Catholics who did not know what to make of the controversy will finally realize that the Archbishop was telling the truth all along. Why? Because this time it was two secular government agencies that determined that the RMS property is owned by the Archbishop of Agana. All praise and glory goes to God. The Archdiocese did not have to do anything for it was God Himself who won this battle for the Archdiocese. <br /><br />The jungle, on the other hand, has already shown that it opposes ALL those who disagrees with them, including its own members who have questioned them. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-39181204876511874482016-03-21T10:08:00.076+10:002016-03-21T10:08:00.076+10:00Why do you call it the turning point, Diana?Why do you call it the turning point, Diana?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-81430769959034691702016-03-21T07:38:59.378+10:002016-03-21T07:38:59.378+10:00Dear Anonymous at 12:12 am,
It is over! The NEW...Dear Anonymous at 12:12 am, <br /><br />It is over! The NEW Certificates of Titles is supported by the Department of Land Management in collaboration with the Office of the Attorney General. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-89669180397315788822016-03-21T07:30:38.441+10:002016-03-21T07:30:38.441+10:00Timmy Timmy Timmy Timmy Timmy ?????? NO CASINO, ST...Timmy Timmy Timmy Timmy Timmy ?????? NO CASINO, STOP NOW......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-14479344044313238812016-03-21T07:15:51.739+10:002016-03-21T07:15:51.739+10:00Dear Anonymous at 12:09 am,
Please get real. No...Dear Anonymous at 12:09 am, <br /><br />Please get real. No one buys a car and gives control of the car to someone else, knowing full well that they are still liable if the car was involved in an accident or used as a crime. <br /><br />The Archbishop has already proven that he owns the RMS property. So get over it. God won the victory for the Archdiocese of Agana. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-56587636133202902562016-03-21T00:12:31.384+10:002016-03-21T00:12:31.384+10:00The article states that " the proper way to p...The article states that " the proper way to proceed with this memorialization was to cancel the former Certificates of Title Nos. 135922, 135923, 135924 and 135925, which did not include the Declaration of Deed Restriction, and issue new Certificates of Title."<br /><br />But I have just seen that the cancelled Certificates actually did have the Declaration listed on them. Is this another error or just another attempt to deceive?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-55250149400152549782016-03-21T00:09:17.717+10:002016-03-21T00:09:17.717+10:00" The person who LEGALLY owns the property is..." The person who LEGALLY owns the property is the same person who EFFECTIVELY owns the property. "<br /><br />Well, I can see your problem. <br /><br />This is simply untrue. If I own a car, but sign a contract saying that you can have total use of it forever, and can do whatever you like with it, my name on the registration papers means nothing, does it. Even though I legally own the car, the restriction I place on it means that you effectively own it. <br /><br />See how a transfer of ownership (and control) can occur without a change in the strict legal sense.<br /><br />But in the case of the RMS property, it is even more than that, because the legal terms used in the deed restrition are equivalent to an outright transfer.<br /><br />You say that the office of the Attorney General had access to "all pertinent documents" and that that makes all the difference.<br /><br />So, what are these "pertinent documents" provided by the Archdiocese? Can you elaborate at all?<br /><br />If there are other documents that would convince someone of the ownership of the property, don't you think its scandalous to keep them secret?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com