tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post4643939313723351572..comments2024-03-20T11:41:40.379+10:00Comments on Neocatechumenal Way - An Insider's View: Paschalis SollemnitatisDianahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-89713301593714845392015-04-03T11:35:16.055+10:002015-04-03T11:35:16.055+10:00Surely this is a joke? A public admonishment under...Surely this is a joke? A public admonishment under the guise of "love". Pure judgement and arrogance at work again - all wth while using the precious name of Our Lord as a justificaion. ShamefulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-37888668165243052912015-04-02T19:13:27.814+10:002015-04-02T19:13:27.814+10:00I wish I could wash the feet of Tim Rohr tonight. ...I wish I could wash the feet of Tim Rohr tonight. He needs cleaning and he needs our compassion. because he is apart from our Jesus. He struggles again and again to come closer to Him but he is unable. Because Tim is helplessly entangled in his own web of misdeeds, spun by the devil. Tim, when I would wash your feet, I would make sure you feel the love of our Jesus that is the only thing that could free you from the trap of the devil. Please, do not turn away from your only chance to change your heart for Jesus! Peace be with you at the Day of Resurrection. delta forcenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-72123316454792382722015-04-02T00:16:56.843+10:002015-04-02T00:16:56.843+10:00The Easter vigil is a Easter vigil we are one thei...The Easter vigil is a Easter vigil we are one their are Easter vigils in toto their are Easter vigils in Yona their are Easter vigils in dededo so your saying that if we have a vigil like at pacific star that we are not in a parish we still have a name and a parish but in different places but where their is a church and it's in like in toto and it's Yona we don't hear them saying you need to join us we are still a Parish in another placeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-17825609007186485942015-04-01T19:17:11.470+10:002015-04-01T19:17:11.470+10:00Dear Anonymous at 9:45 am,
Do you really think t...Dear Anonymous at 9:45 am, <br /><br />Do you really think that the hotel is free????Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-54476549235050681132015-04-01T15:26:09.130+10:002015-04-01T15:26:09.130+10:00Before what ever is left after the collection, the...Before what ever is left after the collection, the money goes to the poor. Now it is very difficult to be accountable if the left overs are for other purposes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-19788031651626319152015-04-01T10:41:02.906+10:002015-04-01T10:41:02.906+10:00"Why don't you come and celebrate with us..."Why don't you come and celebrate with us for six hours? :-)"<br /><br />Well that's easy. Because you violate the instructions and guidance of the Church in the liturgy. You teach incorrect theology - eg the washing of feet is a sign of forgiveness, rather than a sign of the priesthood.<br /><br />But apart from that, you have no right to a separate celebration. It is better for the unity of the Church that all Catholics come together in a celebration of the local Church - the parish. if the parish celebration could be improved and become more like the Church intends, lets all try to assist with that goal. <br /><br />In the meantime, you still haven't answered the objections. You still persist only because of obstinacy. You are still hypocritical, because you quote Paschalis Sollemnitatis selectively, and ignore that important passage of paragraph 94. You have no answer to that except , we will continue to do as we do, and you should join us instead. Arrogance and blasphemy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-59744962942268204102015-04-01T09:45:14.832+10:002015-04-01T09:45:14.832+10:00
You say that Diana but money goes into Apurons po...<br />You say that Diana but money goes into Apurons pocket for private discretionary spending. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-7304158340618991712015-04-01T08:27:47.979+10:002015-04-01T08:27:47.979+10:00I think I get the gist of what anon @9:13am and @9...I think I get the gist of what anon @9:13am and @9:44pm is saying, though: to make peace in the Catholic family, why don't the Neos just have their own bldg to worship in and they can do what they want there? The RSM formed priests/presbyters can be assigned there, their table can be permanently set up, their KiKo paintings can be put up, and the regular Catholics won't have to worry about them 'changing' their church bldg. or interfering with their Mass. <br />This is not to say one is better than the other, just to keep peace in the Catholic family. Maybe a better analogy would be: Under one house, but in separate rooms. Each can decorate how they wish, listen to the type of music they prefer, etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-5293266438550822702015-04-01T07:31:53.358+10:002015-04-01T07:31:53.358+10:00Dear Anonymous at 7:16 am,
God always provide. I...Dear Anonymous at 7:16 am, <br /><br />God always provide. In all the hotels that we have held our retreats and Easter Vigils, we have never left a debt behind. The hotel bill is always paid due to the generosity of the members. In other words, many of us pay more than what we are required to pay. The bill would be divided up between the number of members attending. Let's say the hotel bill cost $100 per person. Many people in the Way usually give more, and that would take care of those who are unable to pay. If there are any left over money, that usually goes to the New Evangelization for the mission families and itinerants. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-73551219502370702582015-04-01T07:16:44.817+10:002015-04-01T07:16:44.817+10:00What if I'm a member but can't afford to p...What if I'm a member but can't afford to pay for the hotel? In addition, if it's open to the public, as the archbishop states, who pays for all the non-members' attendance?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-39906763777350420812015-04-01T06:32:30.329+10:002015-04-01T06:32:30.329+10:00Dear Anonymous at 11:45 pm,
The NCW members who ...Dear Anonymous at 11:45 pm, <br /><br />The NCW members who use the hotels are the ones who pay for it.Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-75068754574721044552015-04-01T04:49:07.557+10:002015-04-01T04:49:07.557+10:00The questions is Bell, do you? Do you believe what...The questions is Bell, do you? Do you believe what on the prayers that you have done? Who are you to question her prayers, is like asking a Jew if you have done your purification. Your question is absurd, this is none of your concern. In the Gospel say, when you fast, do not show to anyone and when you pray, pray in a room and lock the door. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-88919439233562829842015-04-01T00:07:59.568+10:002015-04-01T00:07:59.568+10:00Anonymous March 31, 2015 at 9:44 PM
Do you really...Anonymous March 31, 2015 at 9:44 PM<br /><br />Do you really believe that a person.....a Catholic finds definition.....a purpose....a meaning of his or her life by what Church or Mass he or she attends; Neocatechumenal Way; Eastern ....Latin?<br /><br />It is God who calls; Christ that guides and the Spirit that sustains. People in the Way....over a million worldwide and growing have chosen....have answered YES to the call. Being called to live a Christian life is not easy but we're not alone in our walk.<br /><br />I pray that where ever you attend mass, you'll find Jesus Christ. I pray that your answer to him will be YES.<br /><br /> I would also ask you to read...reflect on LUKE 4:16-24.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-91884069682990558582015-03-31T23:45:53.133+10:002015-03-31T23:45:53.133+10:00
Who pays for these Easter Vigils in Hotels? <br />Who pays for these Easter Vigils in Hotels? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-89942599942228261512015-03-31T23:21:01.623+10:002015-03-31T23:21:01.623+10:00Dear Anonymous at 3:48 pm,
I was aware of what h...Dear Anonymous at 3:48 pm, <br /><br />I was aware of what he wrote, but I am also aware that he most likely meant "Eastern Catholics" rather than Eastern Orthodox Catholics. And as you can see, he corrected himself in his comment on March 31 at 9:44 pm, by stating: <br /><br />"And I know the Eastern Catholics are not a separate religion---that's my point exactly. Just as they are still recognized as Catholics but have different practices"<br /><br />So, anonymous, yes, I can read. But rather than pointing out his error and making a big deal out of it, I responded in a different way where he alone can learn from his own error without my having to point it out to him. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-54957446703256264412015-03-31T23:05:57.489+10:002015-03-31T23:05:57.489+10:00Dear Anonymous at 9:44 pm,
You say that the East...Dear Anonymous at 9:44 pm, <br /><br />You say that the Eastern Catholics are not a separate religion; yet, you consider them another church and another family members?? The Eastern Catholics are ONE with the Latin-rite church. They do not form a different church at all. <br /><br />True peace comes from Jesus Christ. Believe and trust in Him, and you will have peace. The members who are with us chose to join us. You do not have to join us, but do not deny those who want to become mission families and missionaries through the NCW. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-2757400261219615712015-03-31T22:53:27.429+10:002015-03-31T22:53:27.429+10:00Dear Anonymous at 10:38 am,
Read this again:
...Dear Anonymous at 10:38 am, <br /><br />Read this again: <br /><br />"However, in some areas where initially the reform of the Easter Vigil was received enthusiastically, it would appear that with the passage of time this enthusiasm has begun to wane. The very concept of the vigil has almost come to be forgotten in some places with the result that it is celebrated as if it were an evening Mass, in the same way and at the same time as the Mass celebrated on Saturday evening in anticipation of the Sunday.<br /><br />It also happens that the celebrations of the Triduum are not held at the correct times. This is because certain devotions and pious exercises are held at more convenient times and so the faithful participate in them rather than in the liturgical celebrations." <br /><br />Why don't you come and celebrate with us for six hours? :-)Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-28623647142282752792015-03-31T22:00:39.402+10:002015-03-31T22:00:39.402+10:00Hotel?? Fancy aren't we?Hotel?? Fancy aren't we?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-84893388333045055282015-03-31T21:44:27.412+10:002015-03-31T21:44:27.412+10:00Do you think everyone who is questioning you atten...Do you think everyone who is questioning you attends the Latin mass? I assure you, most of us don't. I, for one, like the regular Mass, in English or Chamorro. And I prefer to follow what is written as the proper way to observe Mass. Call me a skeptic, but just because someone says it is okay does not make it okay for me--especially when it comes to something this important. <br /><br />And I know the Eastern Catholics are not a separate religion---that's my point exactly. Just as they are still recognized as Catholics but have different practices, so are the Neos. So why not just have your own church to continue to do your own thing? (I realize this will not be acceptable to some people who believe Neo is not Catholic, but that'll be a whole different battle.) I just want to have peace. Don't you? Apparently the two family members cannot co-exist in one house...so maybe the newcomers need to find their own?<br /> <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-34799426966933061862015-03-31T20:20:40.958+10:002015-03-31T20:20:40.958+10:00Anonymous March 31, 2015 at 9:13 AM
Are you being...Anonymous March 31, 2015 at 9:13 AM<br /><br />Are you being sarcastic? <br /><br />We follow.....we pray for the grace to worship...to live a life in communion with Jesus Christ and the Father.<br /><br />your comments reflect a juvenile....infantile perspective of faith. Must be nice to be so comfortable in life. You must not need Jesus Christ in your life. Good for you.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-52817612535727582962015-03-31T18:18:36.603+10:002015-03-31T18:18:36.603+10:00
Diana make peace with Guam Catholics. Have you li...<br />Diana make peace with Guam Catholics. Have you lived the way Christ taught us? Have you prayed the Rosary today? Have you reflected on salvation? Miss Bell Diaz.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-25112992983962823612015-03-31T15:48:38.359+10:002015-03-31T15:48:38.359+10:00Dear Diana, the anon at 9.13 wrote "Eastern O...Dear Diana, the anon at 9.13 wrote "Eastern ORTHODOX Catholics", not "Eastern Catholics". <br /><br />You seem to be referring to the "Eastern-rite Catholics", while anon refers to Eastern Orthodox, who are still in formal schism and are not "a part of the Catholic Church".<br /><br />Your reference shows not only your ignorance, but also that you can't read very well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-79651973314678149212015-03-31T12:45:32.149+10:002015-03-31T12:45:32.149+10:00Dear Anonymous at 9:13 am,
The Eastern Catholics...Dear Anonymous at 9:13 am, <br /><br />The Eastern Catholics are NOT separate from us. They are part of the Catholic Church and in union with the Pope. To even think that they form a separate church either shows your ignorance of Catholicism or your desire to be separate from anything that is different from the Latin rite of pre-Vatican II. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-75524775163663556552015-03-31T10:58:47.378+10:002015-03-31T10:58:47.378+10:00On Sunday's priest visits my house to say mas...<br />On Sunday's priest visits my house to say mass for family. After mass we have dinner . However, Holy Thursday night, Good Friday, Easter Vigil, we go to a parish. Sunday evening may have mass for Easter if not attend Easter Vigil. <br />Problem with NCW don't understand liturgy, mass,unity. NCW should go to a parish and mix with others and stop building their own private church. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-43107935353278414822015-03-31T10:38:43.574+10:002015-03-31T10:38:43.574+10:00Dear Diana,
read this again.
""above a...Dear Diana,<br /><br />read this again.<br /><br />""above all in this Vigil, the faithful should come together as one and should experience a sense of ecclesial community"<br /><br />It is beyond me how you can get from this some sense that the Church is merely making some metaphysical observation that all Easter Vigils "are one". What nonsense.<br /><br />By this statement the Church clearly intends that there should be one celebration of the Vigil in the local Church - ie the faithful should come together (that is, not fragmented) and should experience ecclesial community (the parish).<br /><br />As usual, you have not answered the objections raised in my previous post. Rather, you have stubbornly refused to engage in anything more than what you have been told. You are the ultimate bad advertisement for the NCW as you seem to be incapable of reasoning for yourself. You are stuck in a kind of self-afflicted blindness. And what is worse - you wish to inflict the same condition on others.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com