tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post458444095925362239..comments2024-03-20T11:41:40.379+10:00Comments on Neocatechumenal Way - An Insider's View: Comparing RMS In US And GuamDianahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comBlogger64125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-55874531000750801432015-11-20T11:28:32.190+10:002015-11-20T11:28:32.190+10:00Good question, Anonymous at 12:28 PM.
Why indeed w...Good question, Anonymous at 12:28 PM.<br />Why indeed would Harold who is from Medellin, Colombia come to the RMS seminary in Guam when there is an RMS seminary in his hometown of Medellin, Colombia? Strange...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-84939485353581091292015-11-16T12:02:52.258+10:002015-11-16T12:02:52.258+10:00Jokers Wild,
You seem to know a great deal about ...Jokers Wild, <br />You seem to know a great deal about the motives of Eileen B-B.<br />why don't you meet with her in person and tell her to her face what you think of her? Have you the courage to meet a woman with severe hip arthritis that causes her to use a rollator walker as needed? If afraid to meet with her do hire the same G4S guard that protected the archbishop<br />and his gala from a frightening group of mostly older peaceful demonstratorswho held their demonstration from 5-6 pm the evening of the gala.<br />Meet in a public place not at a secluded beach... but do meet as she wants to look directly at you as you tell her what motivates her in regards to the archbishop. She is willing to meet with you any time you say. She is very astute in reading people by looking directly into their eyes. Don't be afraid to meet with her in a public place. What say you, Jokers Wild??? <br />"Ellen B. or Eilleen Benavente- Bles"<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-58974489034426017162015-11-14T13:43:12.942+10:002015-11-14T13:43:12.942+10:00I enjoyed to watch Fr. Pedro ordination on live st...I enjoyed to watch Fr. Pedro ordination on live stream. Did I miss where he will minister? Will he stay on n Guam? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-10563370366496140352015-11-14T01:38:17.868+10:002015-11-14T01:38:17.868+10:00dear Annie Aguon Phd,
How sad that you accuse Pal...dear Annie Aguon Phd,<br /><br />How sad that you accuse Pale Luis of a sexual crime. Very sad, wheres the hope and forgiveness in that? Youre familiar with this standard no?<br />What is so sad is that you have made it so obvious that the only intel that you have is based on articles written by rohr and his cohorts. In regards to Pale Luis' case, a while back rohr threatened to get to the bottom of this by sending a FOIA request to GPD for the police report, he has yet to reveal his findings. I urge you to request from rohr a follow up report if any. Good luck because rohr found nothing. Wala! Taya! ni hafafa!<br />Please use your Phd to better discern the information that you believe to be scholarly. <br />Now in regards to Eileen BB, she new very well what she was trying to do. Her poor judgment got her in a deeper mess and made her look foolish. Out of all the other options to go and get some dinner she decided to support the very Hotel that allowed to host the Archbishops Gala Dinner. Out of all the restrooms available for her to use, she purposely decided to go to furthest restroom which happened to be the nearest to the Gala. Now for a lady who continues to segregate herself from anything "apuron" or "neo" she decided to eat at a "apuron" and "neo" favored hotel that evening, she also decided to wash her hands and sit on the same toilet seat that "apuron and "neo" supporters availed themselves of that same night.<br />Poor thing but yes there is hope and forgiveness after all.<br /><br />-Jokers WildAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-70087904054472069602015-11-12T08:47:19.516+10:002015-11-12T08:47:19.516+10:00Dear Anonymous at 10:24 am,
See my reply in the ...Dear Anonymous at 10:24 am, <br /><br />See my reply in the following weblink: <br /><br />http://neocatechemunal.blogspot.com/2015/11/what-it-means-to-be-catholic.htmlDianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-48842301977260299902015-11-12T08:28:58.434+10:002015-11-12T08:28:58.434+10:00Ai Adai! For cryin' out looud, are we back to...Ai Adai! For cryin' out looud, are we back to this again? This you, Eileen? The guard saw your protest sign, which read "Any GALA Funds for Guam's Homeless?" Other signs were about Fr. Paul, Mon. James, the Way, the seminary. But Eileen, your sign is about the GALA. It didn't have anything to do with past issues. The guard saw your sign protesting the GALA and saw you coming near the Gala celebration and drew the same conclusion that Diana did. The guard told you the reason he kept you out. So, get over it and go on with life. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-30247647389817172222015-11-12T08:19:01.069+10:002015-11-12T08:19:01.069+10:00These are empty threats of lawsuits, typical Tim R...These are empty threats of lawsuits, typical Tim Rohr kind of bullying around. You won't spend any dollar on a lawsuit because you know you'll lose it big time. Unless, of course, if you want to make your lawyer rich! Lol. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-41497906156954611912015-11-12T07:32:44.698+10:002015-11-12T07:32:44.698+10:00Dear Anonymous at 1:03 am,
Exactly my point! Yo...Dear Anonymous at 1:03 am, <br /><br />Exactly my point! You should know why some priests are called "Presbyters" if you know your Latin language. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-67676134114922139612015-11-12T01:13:03.373+10:002015-11-12T01:13:03.373+10:00"As for Eileen, I am not the only one who has..."As for Eileen, I am not the only one who has "reasonable cause" to keep an eye on her at the hotel. The security guard was there and saw everything. Apparently, the other protesters who entered the Hyatt Hotel did not run into much problems as Eileen did because they had the decency and common sense to stay far away from the Gala celebration. Eileen, on the other hand, was wandering too close to the area, which brought the security guard's attention. "<br />The above quote is from Diana's post. <br />Diana, did you interview the security guard to get all the information you posted about Eileen? The guard should be expecting a subpoena soon to testify in the civil suit. Or maybe he will required to do a sworn testimony, with questions posed by her lawyer. Not sure about the legal details but he better be prepared. You too, may be subpoenaed. Be sure of your "facts."<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-44227520721215067092015-11-12T01:03:13.445+10:002015-11-12T01:03:13.445+10:00You should know why some priests are called "...You should know why some priests are called "Palé" if you know the Chamorro language. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-44823662849183017932015-11-12T01:00:12.114+10:002015-11-12T01:00:12.114+10:00What is a charism?What is a charism?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-45395124112051165932015-11-11T19:32:52.503+10:002015-11-11T19:32:52.503+10:00Dear Anonymous at 1:34 am,
I did not ask you for...Dear Anonymous at 1:34 am, <br /><br />I did not ask you for the year. I ask you for the name of the Pope who stated that the NCW is no longer a charism. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-67581207580255381882015-11-11T13:34:46.522+10:002015-11-11T13:34:46.522+10:00Every year since 1985.Every year since 1985.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-6836918115988857512015-11-11T13:18:02.852+10:002015-11-11T13:18:02.852+10:00Father Diego Luis de San Vitores (1627 – 1672), a ...Father Diego Luis de San Vitores (1627 – 1672), a member of the religious order of the Society of Jesus (Jesuits), brought Christianity to the Chamorro people in 1668. He was killed on Guam 2 April 1672 just a little less than four years after his arrival, a death that he welcomed because he would be considered a martyr in his efforts to spread Christianity.<br /><br />I see that we on Guam still do not understand. I bet his English was not that good either.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12185055147538835766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-24354200574095907152015-11-11T10:24:51.483+10:002015-11-11T10:24:51.483+10:00Diana, any thoughts on this article about the Neoc...Diana, any thoughts on this article about the Neocatechumenal Way?<br />http://www.postguam.com/forum/mindful-musings/43045-concern-about-neocatechumenal-influence.html#.VkI-YGbXenMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-47675668213133712822015-11-11T09:04:12.183+10:002015-11-11T09:04:12.183+10:00Dear Anonymous at 8:18 am,
Which Pope says that t...Dear Anonymous at 8:18 am,<br /><br />Which Pope says that the NCW is no longer a charism???<br /><br />Where did you hear this false rumor that the NCW leadership has been pushing and ordaining priests. Can you quote an NCW leader saying this? It takes at least 8 years for an RMS priest to be ordain. Many of them go beyond 8 years. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-32403223672445233152015-11-11T08:18:46.665+10:002015-11-11T08:18:46.665+10:00But 'evangelize' is a term that Diana has ...But 'evangelize' is a term that Diana has emphasized and the meaning is not the dictionary meaning.<br />You twist everything Diana/Susana to fit your agenda.<br />"other" ways of understanding of Catholic Theology is like Pope Francis is doing. <br />You know that there are different shades of Catholics. Theology is also understood differently depending on the charism for instance of a group. NCW is a charism initially, born of the the Spirit, but it became a mandated organization after the statues came out. That is why leadership has been pushing and ordaining priests, building seminaries. NCW is not anymore a charism, a fruit of the spirit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-70663268595819590882015-11-11T03:39:11.843+10:002015-11-11T03:39:11.843+10:00How sad. Prayers for his intention.How sad. Prayers for his intention.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-77867316612328922392015-11-10T22:08:03.015+10:002015-11-10T22:08:03.015+10:00Diana, one of our brothers in community not doing ...Diana, one of our brothers in community not doing well tonight. Please can I ask you to lift up Brother Marco in prayer tonight. By sunrise he will have entered the New Jerusalem . Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-46824017292616915562015-11-10T19:16:42.130+10:002015-11-10T19:16:42.130+10:00Dear Annie, you claimed sexual encounter. You prov...Dear Annie, you claimed sexual encounter. You provided zero evidence. This is called slander. If you feel your moral compass is okay, then I feel even more sorry for you. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-17462267236672609712015-11-10T15:17:08.759+10:002015-11-10T15:17:08.759+10:00Dear Ellen B.
What exactly is the contradiction ...Dear Ellen B. <br /><br />What exactly is the contradiction do you see? There is no such thing as "Neo Presbyters" in the Catholic Church. There is also no such thing as "Neo Priests" in the Catholic Church. The correct term is RMS presbyter or even RMS priest. <br /><br />The semantics is from the jungle who cannot see that the word "Presbyter" is the Latin word for "Priest". They demand that we use ONLY the word priest. If that were the case, them why do some in the jungle use the word "Pale"?<br />Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-21305838929250962832015-11-10T15:17:06.841+10:002015-11-10T15:17:06.841+10:00I'm not putting down island Diana.
I'm tr...I'm not putting down island Diana. <br />I'm trying to build a common ground of peace for all of us who call Guam home. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-56160329753738707182015-11-10T14:59:37.888+10:002015-11-10T14:59:37.888+10:00"Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first w..."Oh, what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive..."<br /><br />DianaNovember 10, 2015 at 10:53 AM<br />Dear Anonymous at 9:48 am, <br /><br />You are correct. He resigned from the parish, but not from the priesthood. Ellen B., there is no such thing as Neo presbyter. The priests who were ordained from the Redemptoris Mater Seminary are known as RMS priests.<br />http://neocatechemunal.blogspot.com/2015/11/comparing-rms-in-us-and-guam.html?m=1#comment-form<br />---------------------------------------------------http://neocatechemunal.blogspot.com/2014/02/semantics.html?m=1<br /><br />"Another semantics that they use to divide fellow Catholics is the words "Priest" and "Presbyter." I have actually used the word "priest" in my general admonition, but no one (not even the priest) ever told me not to say "priest." When I use the word "Presbyter" in the general admonition, they also say nothing. On the other hand, the opponents of the Way insist that the word "priest" should be used. <br />--------------------------------------<br />Above are Diana's posts.<br />Ellen B.<br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-38350607942274892872015-11-10T13:42:35.110+10:002015-11-10T13:42:35.110+10:00Dear Anonymous at 1:00 pm,
This came from the re...Dear Anonymous at 1:00 pm, <br /><br />This came from the recording, which is found in Chuck White's website: <br /><br />"FR. VERALDI: …very action, action of liturgy. Liturgical action. Also when we sight the son by ourself, because as a church we pray for everybody. And then there is Jesus Christ inside, inside of the sons (signs?). Sons (signs?) must be referred to, to Jesus Christ. Is a prefiguration. He experienced, he experience the son (sign?) before ourself. Before me and before you, Jesus Christ experience the Son (sign?). He experience the love of God, the Father.<br />He experienced the forgiveness of the Father, because he was a sinner. He became a sinner. Willing, not because he was imposed, because he was a sinner, willingly, willing a sinner."<br /><br />Notice that Father Veraldi stated: "And then there is Jesus Christ inside, inside of the sons. Sons must be referred to, to Jesus Christ. Is a prefiguration." <br /><br />It appears that he was speaking of two different people. Jesus is inside who, which he calls a prefiguration? Abraham's son, Isaac is a prefigurations of Christ because the father (Abraham) was going to sacrifice his son Isaac, and Isaac did not fight back to save his life. He went willingly to be sacrificed.. <br /><br />Father Veraldi did not say that Christ was a sinner. He said "He was a sinner." The problem here is.....who is "HE"? Who is the HE that the instructor was referring to? Because he is an ESL speaker and his speech was taken out of context, it is difficult to determine who are the two people he was speaking about. We know that one of them is Christ, but there is another person he was speaking about. Someone who was a prefigurement of Christ. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-16280855738764888072015-11-10T13:00:36.003+10:002015-11-10T13:00:36.003+10:00Diana, you are being disingenuous. He said more th...Diana, you are being disingenuous. He said more than once, "Christ was a sinner." Sinner is not a difficult word to understand for an ESL priest. If he has not the proficiency in English to lecture on matters of theology he should not lecture. Is there no one else available who speaks and understands English who can come to Guam RMS and help educate the seminarians?<br />Ellen B.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com