tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post3155392506092488139..comments2024-03-20T11:41:40.379+10:00Comments on Neocatechumenal Way - An Insider's View: Post Scriptum From Giuseppe and Claudia GennariniDianahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comBlogger116125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-21065281510238478752015-08-26T17:58:41.759+10:002015-08-26T17:58:41.759+10:00Very nice information.
Thank you.Very nice information.<br />Thank you.NCW_Manilahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03286108214768100717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-55473278715972517882015-08-02T14:10:33.171+10:002015-08-02T14:10:33.171+10:00Dear Anonymous at 1:21 pm,
And we are, with the ...Dear Anonymous at 1:21 pm, <br /><br />And we are, with the permission from the Pope regarding our celebrations.Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-89247556125734024872015-08-02T13:21:32.814+10:002015-08-02T13:21:32.814+10:00Sorry, I think you misunderstand. The NCW is suppo...Sorry, I think you misunderstand. The NCW is supposed to celebrate in the Roman Rite, which is to say, it is in this way part of the Latin ChurchAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-11368688946161614842015-08-02T11:47:12.997+10:002015-08-02T11:47:12.997+10:00Dear 9:35 am,
We already told you that we had pe...Dear 9:35 am, <br /><br />We already told you that we had permission from the Pope. We cannot keep going around in circles all the time. You either trust us in what we say or ask the Vatican if permission was granted. <br /><br />Shalom, my friendDianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-64662500492000270042015-08-02T09:35:14.898+10:002015-08-02T09:35:14.898+10:00Dear Diana,
RE: "notify him that we refuse ...Dear Diana,<br /><br />RE: "notify him that we refuse to follow YOUR correction."<br />Diana, <br />I already have written the Vatican. I consider the "7th" the go-ahead for lowly me to correct with as much charity as possible the errors in the NCW Mass . God sees my heart, and I honestly believe I have made an earnest attempt to do so (with approved Statutes of 2008 in hand) through your blog-site.<br />We non-neos are asking, where in the approved Statutes of 2008 do you find permission for all the many additions and deletions in your Saturday night Mass. Sounds very reasonable. Sounds very easy to answer, if the information exists.<br /><br />RE: " SEVENTH: The Neocatechumenal Way is the one that knows the most about the Christian Initiation. Consult them and, if necessary, correct the catechists, the communities…(because to correct is to love)…but correct with the Statutes in your hands."<br /><br />I do appreciate your printing "most" of what I have sent. I will continue to pray that we both may desire God's Will, that we both may know God's Will, and that we both may have the strength to do God's Will.<br />Shalom<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-84529544237798478722015-08-02T06:26:22.044+10:002015-08-02T06:26:22.044+10:00Dear Anonymous at 9:38 pm,
I already said that t...Dear Anonymous at 9:38 pm, <br /><br />I already said that the way we celebrate the Eucharist is approved by the Pope. If you feel that we are in disobedience, please write your letter of complaint to the Pope and notify him that we refuse to follow YOUR correction. Request to the Vatican to correct us. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-18763658905271890042015-08-02T06:21:31.708+10:002015-08-02T06:21:31.708+10:00Dear Anonymous at 9:48 pm,
That is what One of t...Dear Anonymous at 9:48 pm, <br /><br />That is what One of the things I like about the Way. Unlike the Latin Mass Catholics who call themselves Roman Catholics, we call ourselves Catholics. <br /><br />In fact, The Greek Catholic (Melchite) rite runs a Redemptoris Mater Seminary within Domus Galilaeae, and has 12 neocatechumenal communities in several Palestinian villages. There are also two Maronite communities. How beautiful that the Way caters to the entire Catholic Church and not just to one half of it. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-1124052480309747502015-08-01T21:48:11.419+10:002015-08-01T21:48:11.419+10:00I like the last sentence : " In the Latin Chu...I like the last sentence : " In the Latin Church, however, kneeling is the sign of adoration for Christ who has just become present on the altar."<br /><br />The NCW is in the Latin Church isn't it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-60123211533411452482015-08-01T21:38:12.758+10:002015-08-01T21:38:12.758+10:00RE: "The Eastern Catholics do NOT kneel. Acco...<br />RE: "The Eastern Catholics do NOT kneel. According to EWTN:......."<br />Dear Diana,<br />I have heard it first-hand from someone who himself goes to an Eastern Catholic Church where parishioners prostrate themselves during the Eucharistic Prayer even though it may be customary to bow, and they always "kneel" when they receive Communion. I asked him if that was the only church that was doing that, and he said no.<br /><br />AGAIN: "There are many Eastern Catholics who DO kneel, even though their Rite does not require it. Change in that Rite is surfacing even though their Rite doesn't require it. Some, who realize the magnitude of Jesus truly present, even prostrate themselves. (Furthermore, the Eastern Catholics demonstrate the awesomeness of the Eucharist by not taking Communion in the hand.)"<br /><br />RE: "So, why didn't these popes force the Eastern Catholics to kneel?"<br /><br />Eastern Catholics are a DIFFERENT RITE - they have permission to stand. The Neocatechumenal Way claims it follows the ROMAN RITE. The Roman Rite states, during the Eucharistic Prayer, one must KNEEL if able. They are only permitted to stand, if unable to kneel for good reason.<br /><br />With all the valid statements from the Popes, saints, etc. previously mentioned as to why we should be kneeling, it is hard to understand why would the NCW would believe that their way is permitted. It seems that pertinent information is being kept away from the majority of members. Surely the members would be willing to adore Jesus on their knees. <br /><br />RE: " SEVENTH: The Neocatechumenal Way is the one that knows the most about the Christian Initiation. Consult them and, if necessary, correct the catechists, the communities…(because to correct is to love)…but correct with the Statutes in your hands."<br /><br />I believe the Holy Spirit was responsible for the above statement. Sounds like He is saying "It's time."<br />So with that, I pray that you look carefully at the Statutes of 2008, and see that there is no permission for the many additions and deletions in the NCW Mass. <br /><br />The NCW will not fall apart if they change to be loyal to Rome; however, they may lose members when they realize that mistakes are not corrected. Courage.<br />May His Will be done.<br /> <br />Shalom.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-76357900869293467772015-08-01T21:34:10.123+10:002015-08-01T21:34:10.123+10:00Dear Diana a 9:21 AM and Anonymous at Jul 31 5:47P...Dear Diana a 9:21 AM and Anonymous at Jul 31 5:47PM --<br />You ask 'what good is kneeling when you go back to sinning the moment you walk out the door'.<br />One could ask the same of anything you do in church: taking communion, praying, public testimonials, going to confession, etc. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-6368848796874688582015-08-01T10:30:41.550+10:002015-08-01T10:30:41.550+10:00Dear Anonymous at 10:08 am,
The Eastern Catholic...Dear Anonymous at 10:08 am, <br /><br />The Eastern Catholics do NOT kneel. According to EWTN: <br /><br />"In the Orthodox Churches and the Eastern Catholic Churches standing is the norm during the Eucharistic Prayer. At the Consecration is added the customary sign of adoration in these Churches, a profound bow. In the Latin Church, however, kneeling is the sign of adoration for Christ who has just become present on the altar."<br /><br />http://www.ewtn.com/expert/answers/kneeling_at_the_consecration.htm<br /><br />So, why didn't these popes force the Eastern Catholics to kneel? Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-53237186759818941802015-08-01T10:08:19.931+10:002015-08-01T10:08:19.931+10:00Dear Diana,
There are many Eastern Catholics who ...Dear Diana,<br /> There are many Eastern Catholics who DO kneel, even though their Rite does not require it. Change in that Rite is surfacing even though their Rite doesn't require it. Some, who realize the magnitude of Jesus truly present, even prostrate themselves. (Furthermore, the Eastern Catholics demonstrate the awesomeness of the Eucharist by not taking Communion in the hand.)<br /> <br />"What good is your kneeling when you go back to sinning the moment you walk out the door. "<br />Sounds like you and anon. are being judgmental. When Pope Francis, Pope Benedict or Pope John Paul would kneel in front of the Blessed Sacrament, could you or would you say that to them too?<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-84703101836645451732015-08-01T09:21:57.130+10:002015-08-01T09:21:57.130+10:00Dear Anonymous at 8:22 am,
So, why didn't th...Dear Anonymous at 8:22 am, <br /><br />So, why didn't those Popes force the Eastern Catholics to kneel? I agree with Anonymous at 5:47 pm, What good is your kneeling when you go back to sinning the moment you walk out the door. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-91052992921642292472015-08-01T08:22:29.931+10:002015-08-01T08:22:29.931+10:00Dear Anonymous 547 pm
Try as you may to justify NO...Dear Anonymous 547 pm<br />Try as you may to justify NOT kneeling, it is not necessary to make that comment to me.<br />These are not MY words. These words of wisdom come from Pope Benedict XVI Emeritus, Saint Francis, Saint Anthony, Father Scanlan, and the Angel of Portugal and Sr. Lucia. Take it up with them.<br />I'm just passing on words from those far greater than I could ever be. Peace.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-33517401384147150742015-08-01T07:42:51.364+10:002015-08-01T07:42:51.364+10:00Dear Anonymous at 10:49 pm,
Rome's Easter Vi...Dear Anonymous at 10:49 pm, <br /><br />Rome's Easter Vigil is much longer than your parish Easter Vigil. Rome's Easter Vigil is about 3 hours long.Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-16756271995623630672015-08-01T07:31:11.660+10:002015-08-01T07:31:11.660+10:00Dear Anonymous at 12:59 am,
Of course, And there...Dear Anonymous at 12:59 am, <br /><br />Of course, And there is no separate vigils. All vigils are one just as all Mass are one.Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-36218060263515143472015-08-01T00:59:18.915+10:002015-08-01T00:59:18.915+10:00Dear Diana, that is not an answer. Do you disagree...Dear Diana, that is not an answer. Do you disagree with Kiko when he says that there should not be a parallel or separate Vigil celebration?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-48869606912003292392015-07-31T22:49:11.518+10:002015-07-31T22:49:11.518+10:00If the Pope found the riches of the Easter Vigil i...If the Pope found the riches of the Easter Vigil in the Way, then why doesn't he celebrate it the way the NCW does it in Rome? This change should start at the top.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-26188371438024665442015-07-31T22:09:41.988+10:002015-07-31T22:09:41.988+10:00Dear Anonymous at 6:32 pm,
To start slowly means...Dear Anonymous at 6:32 pm, <br /><br />To start slowly means to introduce to people the riches of the Easter Vigil which the Pope had found in the Way. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-7026441882956754072015-07-31T22:07:23.934+10:002015-07-31T22:07:23.934+10:00Dear Anonymous at 8:57 pm,
Not control. Christ i...Dear Anonymous at 8:57 pm, <br /><br />Not control. Christ is always the one in control of His Church. But definitely a change. The Church needs more people to become holy and even people to live out their baptismal promises to evangelize and spread the Gospels.Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-74903581299271523882015-07-31T20:57:02.681+10:002015-07-31T20:57:02.681+10:00Is this what it's all about Diana? Change! A...Is this what it's all about Diana? Change! Are you admitting that there will be a total change and control?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-92233523704685300392015-07-31T18:32:13.281+10:002015-07-31T18:32:13.281+10:00What do you mean "it is always best to start ...What do you mean "it is always best to start the change slowly. "? Are you implying that to "start slowly", you need to have your own separate "parallel" vigil? So now you are contradicting kiko? Thats dangerous isn't it. He clearly says that there shouldn't be a "parallel" Vigil of your own. So who is lying?<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-85818160521505885082015-07-31T17:47:37.506+10:002015-07-31T17:47:37.506+10:00funny how Anonymous July 30, 2015 at 3:31 PM would...funny how Anonymous July 30, 2015 at 3:31 PM would offer such a long winded comment on kneeing in front of the Lord.<br /><br />unlike us though who knee to complete a religious requirement and immediately starts sinning after the Mass.<br /><br />it is he who kneels in front of the father to remember his promise......what good is our human kneeling?<br /><br />ANON<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-28768732362310538482015-07-31T16:32:37.055+10:002015-07-31T16:32:37.055+10:00Dear Anonymous at 4:10 pm,
And in order for the ...Dear Anonymous at 4:10 pm, <br /><br />And in order for the Easter Vigil to be renewed, it is always best to start the change slowly. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-85286293196104709452015-07-31T16:11:11.496+10:002015-07-31T16:11:11.496+10:00Interview is here by the way : http://www.christus...Interview is here by the way : http://www.christusrex.org/www2/ncw/english/30dias.htmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com