tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post3039242722709940328..comments2024-03-20T11:41:40.379+10:00Comments on Neocatechumenal Way - An Insider's View: My response To 5EE445Dianahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-20526947832289352422017-09-03T13:12:37.620+10:002017-09-03T13:12:37.620+10:00Deacon Steve or David Sablan hope you see what you...Deacon Steve or David Sablan hope you see what you guys are doing destroying the church God is onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06315440189194464509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-87150755722719072712017-09-03T12:59:32.740+10:002017-09-03T12:59:32.740+10:00Didn't you hear what Byrnes said before he put...Didn't you hear what Byrnes said before he put these things on us yes he knows everything is approved and hi deacon Steve I know this is you because you just like destroying archbishop Anthony so stop destroying archbishop and plus we know archbishop goes to the jungle because he got caught redhandedly for his first interview with kuam when he returned to Guam and red handed when he said he knows that it is approved so peace I'll be praying for you to stop persecuting us and the archbishop Anthony God is onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06315440189194464509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-45479035548823140062017-09-03T10:50:28.914+10:002017-09-03T10:50:28.914+10:00God is one @5:19pm; Brother Tony said three years ...God is one @5:19pm; Brother Tony said three years ago to the parishioners of Yona, when asked about the document that showed the Vaticans Approval for the way you celebrate the Eucharist. He stated that the document is somewhere, he will find it. To this day, we have witness no document showing the Popes approval for your way of worship. Maybe you can be Brother Tony's hero by showing the world the document that he has yet to find. Please share for all to see...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-63686315977755334462017-09-02T16:08:56.820+10:002017-09-02T16:08:56.820+10:00Dear Anonymous at 2:11 pm,
I also say it myself....Dear Anonymous at 2:11 pm, <br /><br />I also say it myself. Adding "Coadjutor" is a mouthful. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-13780477858608476142017-09-02T14:11:42.051+10:002017-09-02T14:11:42.051+10:00Why do everybody say Archbishop Byrnes. Hear Pale ...Why do everybody say Archbishop Byrnes. Hear Pale Mike say it on KOLG. Is that his title or Archbishop Anthony . I'm confused. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-23044228310927625062017-09-02T01:02:40.761+10:002017-09-02T01:02:40.761+10:00Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples
Ar...Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples<br /><br />Art. 85 — It pertains to the Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples to direct and coordinate throughout the world the actual work of spreading the Gospel as well as missionary cooperation, without prejudice to the competence of the Congregation for the Oriental Churches.<br /><br />Art. 86 — The Congregation promotes research in mission theology, spirituality and pastoral work; it likewise proposes principles, norms, and procedures, fitting the needs of time and place, by which evangelization is carried out.<br /><br />Art. 87 — The Congregation strives to bring the people of God, well aware of their duty and filled with missionary spirit, to cooperate effectively in the missionary task by their prayers and the witness of their lives, by their active work and contributions.<br /><br />Art. 88 — § 1. It takes steps to awaken missionary vocations, whether clerical, religious, or lay, and advises on a suitable distribution of missionaries.<br /><br />§ 2. In the territories subject to it, it also cares for the education of the secular clergy and of catechists, without prejudice to the competence of the Congregation of Seminaries and Educational Institutions concerning the general programme of studies, as well as what pertains to the universities and other institutes of higher education.<br /><br />Art. 89 — Within its competence are mission territories, the evangelization of which is committed to suitable institutes and societies and to particular Churches. For these territories it deals with everything pertaining to the establishment and change of ecclesiastical circumscriptions and to the provision of these Churches, and it carries out the other functions that the Congregation of Bishops fulfills within the scope of its competence.<br /><br />Art. 90 — § 1. With regard to members of institutes of consecrated life, whether these are erected in the mission territories or are just working there, the Congregation enjoys competence in matters touching those members as missionaries, individually and collectively, without prejudice to art. 21, § 1.<br /><br />§ 2. Those societies of apostolic life that were founded for the missions are subject to this Congregation.<br /><br />Art. 91 — To foster missionary cooperation, even through the effective collection and equal distribution of subsidies, the Congregation chiefly uses the Pontifical Missionary Works, namely, the Society for the Propagation of the Faith, the Society of St. Peter the Apostle, and the Holy Childhood Association, as well as the Pontifical Missionary Union of the Clergy.<br /><br />Art. 92 — Through a special office, the Congregation administers its own funds and other resources destined for the missions, with full accountability to the Prefecture for the Economic Affairs of the Holy See.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-7026093531955310192017-09-01T23:06:22.388+10:002017-09-01T23:06:22.388+10:00👍👍Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-15434604389614456632017-09-01T17:19:27.895+10:002017-09-01T17:19:27.895+10:00Your showing that you don't want to talk to Ro...Your showing that you don't want to talk to Rome because their is Rome who is the overall mother church it's not just Guam church like we always say that how we celebrate before Byrnes put all these sanctions on us that it was approved by someone higher then Byrnes and who just don't want to hear the truth God is onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06315440189194464509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-4490611054235459222017-09-01T17:10:36.067+10:002017-09-01T17:10:36.067+10:00Dear Anonymous at 4:22 pm,
Who is the Archbishop...Dear Anonymous at 4:22 pm, <br /><br />Who is the Archbishop who questioned the loyalty? When Archbishop Apuron was in charge, the NCW was loyal to him. The jungle wants to punish those who were loyal to Archbishop Apuron when in fact being loyal to him was never a crime. He was, after all, the Archbishop. <br /><br />Have you noticed that when the Deed was corrected by having the Deed Restriction placed in, they still complain? The deed named the Archdiocese of Agana as the legal owner. You would think they would be happy to see that the Archdiocese of Agana was named the owner. But instead, they wanted it changed by having RMS placed as the owner. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-57185871330768918902017-09-01T16:22:48.728+10:002017-09-01T16:22:48.728+10:00Dear Diana, I am the anon at 2.09pm and at 1.26pm....Dear Diana, I am the anon at 2.09pm and at 1.26pm. But I am not the author of the post of August 31, 2017 at 11:24 AM. <br /><br />"The only one who questioned our loyalty was the jungle"<br /><br />No, I think you'll find there are many, including the Archbishop, who a re not in the "Jungle" but who question the loyalty of the NCW priests and members. In fact, its obvious to anyone who cares to look, where your loyalties lie. Think of Jackie and the previous cemetery board, just as an example.<br /><br />And, in any case, the person who posted the comment at 11.24am was implying that loyalty is the issue. They wrote that "Monsignor David's previous action on the publishing of a fake deed to the Yona Property " was the cause of the anger. Well, think about it. Why did Monsignor David do that? Obviously, because he was instructed to by his NCW superiors. And by his actions, he demonstrated where his loyalties lie. <br /><br />Its not rocket surgery.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-75041230396006159732017-09-01T16:05:15.597+10:002017-09-01T16:05:15.597+10:00And by the way why is father Jeff Monsignor James ...And by the way why is father Jeff Monsignor James and father paul still have their power in the chancery because I remember last year a month after he came here he said that when one administration is not in power they have change the people now Byrnes is here how do they have their positions God is onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06315440189194464509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-16516764721921908582017-09-01T15:36:19.268+10:002017-09-01T15:36:19.268+10:00Roman congregations form a disastery of Roman Cath...Roman congregations form a disastery of Roman Catholic Church.Congregations are led by a prefect cardinal.<br />Congregation for Evangelization of peoples is led by Cardinal Filoni. A wise holy man of great diplomatic service.<br />Unfortunate that jungle describes Cardinal Filoni/ congregation as "pathetic".<br />Congregation is responsible for mission lands of the church. It is highly valued respected by Pope Francis/Curia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-70886573550290437532017-09-01T15:02:58.184+10:002017-09-01T15:02:58.184+10:00Dear God is one,
I doubt that Archbishop Byrnes ...Dear God is one, <br /><br />I doubt that Archbishop Byrnes makes comments.in the jungle. He already has the Archbishop's power. What he does not have is his title. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-66058793750708501432017-09-01T14:40:01.230+10:002017-09-01T14:40:01.230+10:00Dear Anonymous at 1:26 pm,
The only one who ques...Dear Anonymous at 1:26 pm, <br /><br />The only one who questioned our loyalty was the jungle. I brought up that up because you said it did not have to do with the NCW, but with the deed to the Yona propertyDianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-885088576536206562017-09-01T14:29:29.160+10:002017-09-01T14:29:29.160+10:00Diana I think that Byrnes writes in the jungle and...Diana I think that Byrnes writes in the jungle and he is giving things to Tim the horror because he is trying to hold on to his power the reason I say that he writes in the jungle is because his first interview when came back with kuam what did he say according to the jungle so Byrnes is trying to get the power of the archbishop God is onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06315440189194464509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-16388935096462173252017-09-01T14:17:43.419+10:002017-09-01T14:17:43.419+10:00There are parishes that can close. Other parishes ...There are parishes that can close. Other parishes combined.<br />Waste of resources manpower in 2017 to maintain a parish in each village. Close down parishes they no longer work.Reality now. New communties of Fellowship liturgy open to us. Old concept of parish is dead. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-83734443844881026762017-09-01T13:26:01.980+10:002017-09-01T13:26:01.980+10:00Huh? I questioned your assertion that the calls to...Huh? I questioned your assertion that the calls to remove "NCW priests" was based on "pure hatred". I don't think that the evidence suggests that it is "pure hatred" that leads to these suggestions. <br /><br />Instead, as I pointed out, I think it is because the NCW members are beholden to their superiors (ie catechists), and priests that walk in the NCW are no exception. This is a clear problem if there are conflicting expectations or instructions coming from their Bishop or Ordinary, as compared to the instructions from the NCW leadership.<br /><br />It is therefore a question of loyalty. In a conflict or contradictory situation, the NCW priests have demonstrated again and again that their loyalty is to Kiko and his group and not to their ecclesial superior. <br /><br />So it is not hatred that drives the concerns and the actions, it is the realisation of the disloyalty of the NCW members.<br /><br />And finally, why did you bring up an apparent lack of "evidence showing that we are calling for the removal of all "non-neo" priests"? <br /><br />Did I suggest that the NCW was calling for the removal of all "non-neo priests"? No, I did not. That is simply your red herring, or your delusion, or something. Try to stay on topic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-37611092065421764922017-09-01T08:01:55.135+10:002017-09-01T08:01:55.135+10:00Dear Anonymous at 12:53 am,
This is why I said t...Dear Anonymous at 12:53 am, <br /><br />This is why I said that the first thing that should close are the parishes. That would make more sense. There are too many parishes for a small island like Guam and all of them are not filled. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-67154086156984287222017-09-01T06:17:27.236+10:002017-09-01T06:17:27.236+10:00The commenter was being facetious. Read the whole ...The commenter was being facetious. Read the whole comment again to get the context of the message. The person is pro Neo and not telling anyone to go the hell. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-28800045001875011612017-09-01T00:53:35.899+10:002017-09-01T00:53:35.899+10:00It's a play on the words of Byrnes. If his vi...It's a play on the words of Byrnes. If his vision of 'moving forward' implies the closing of the seminary then it will entail the loss of many souls. When the diocese kills the seminary then we won't have priests to evangelize those who are lost. How many souls will be lost because the bishop decides to close the seminary and there are no priests to potentially bring the lost out of hell? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-68403855717575236452017-08-31T20:23:11.421+10:002017-08-31T20:23:11.421+10:00Dear Anonymous at 6:44 pm,
You stated: "......Dear Anonymous at 6:44 pm, <br /><br />You stated: "....for the sake of "moving forward", he can tell these poor souls to go to hell." <br /><br />Exactly what does this mean? What are you trying to say? The way to move forward is not to tell anyone to go to hell. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-327428106643463552017-08-31T19:57:02.592+10:002017-08-31T19:57:02.592+10:00
Excuse me. RMS cannot be sold off without the app...<br />Excuse me. RMS cannot be sold off without the approval of the Congregation for Evangelization/curia.<br />Archbishop of Agana requires consent of curia to sell/close down.<br />Wishes of Cardinal Filoni/curia important. Archbishop Anthony is Archbishop of Agana.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-76250985607764025102017-08-31T18:44:00.737+10:002017-08-31T18:44:00.737+10:00(Please post this for Thursday)
Byrnes is the on...(Please post this for Thursday) <br /><br />Byrnes is the only one who can shut the seminary.<br />He is the one who can expell priests of guam associated with the neo catechumeal way. <br />He is the one who can also expell the Way from the parishes. <br /><br />If he does this then the blood of those souls who are deprived of the gospel preaching from the evangelization of the Way will be on his anointed head. <br /><br />He can open a way of salvation. Or, for the sake of "moving forward", he can tell these poor souls to go to hell. <br /><br />May God have mercy on the coadjutor. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-88135107792203227662017-08-31T14:25:42.921+10:002017-08-31T14:25:42.921+10:00Also being obidient to the orinary bishop....in li...Also being obidient to the orinary bishop....in liturgical matters...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-68522821865289435102017-08-31T14:22:46.903+10:002017-08-31T14:22:46.903+10:00Yes because the ordinary is not for the mission. O...Yes because the ordinary is not for the mission. Only for itself. The Way is not selfish with the good news that Jesus loves you.... to announce the gospel to the ends of the earth....following approved statues by the vatican..<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com