tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post2901501046875280936..comments2024-03-20T11:41:40.379+10:00Comments on Neocatechumenal Way - An Insider's View: Disobedience Causes DivisionDianahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-21827891651318105192014-07-04T12:29:42.410+10:002014-07-04T12:29:42.410+10:00AnonymousJuly 3, 2014 at 7:54 PM Your welcome and ...AnonymousJuly 3, 2014 at 7:54 PM Your welcome and remember the CATHOLIC CHURCH is a Mother that always loves you, whether your in despair. You witness your relative marriage healed thru the Holy Spirit in the WAY. We have to pray for each other with LOVE and we are all Sinners including Clergies and our Bishop. Because they're human like us. We are not all promise of assurance of salvation but we have to pray and thrive for holiness and this reward us heaven. Pray to our holy Virgin for all of us to reconcile, after all we are Christian (CATHOLIC).<br /><br />Caritas Christi Urget NosAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-83321366944832885082014-07-03T21:40:30.446+10:002014-07-03T21:40:30.446+10:00Anon at 4:04PM. Ad hominemAnon at 4:04PM. Ad hominemAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-8426434074414178572014-07-03T19:54:58.671+10:002014-07-03T19:54:58.671+10:00Thank you for the clarification. I appreciate your...Thank you for the clarification. I appreciate your humility. I am not in the Way but I recognize that it is an avenue for those searching or those who have fallen away. I too had a relative who was searching and because of the Way, he fell in love with the Catholic Church all over again and strengthened his marriage. In the same token, I recognize other means by which people can come close to Christ. In essence we are all called, but in different ways.<br /><br />I am journeying myself in this life and I am a great sinner in need of forgiveness. <br /><br />God Bless you all for the good you do in Jesus' name.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-15275927254654433902014-07-03T16:07:22.281+10:002014-07-03T16:07:22.281+10:00AnonymousJuly 3, 2014 at 7:43 AM Your not making a...AnonymousJuly 3, 2014 at 7:43 AM Your not making any sense, your heart brew anger you can't even key your words in a complete sentence. Be Calm and do the Rosary.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-34158162573423661202014-07-03T16:04:30.377+10:002014-07-03T16:04:30.377+10:00Anon-6:47PM is kinda confusing. He is being rooted...Anon-6:47PM is kinda confusing. He is being rooted by another Anon from Guam. What accomplishment can he bring?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-6153464288365588672014-07-03T10:33:12.237+10:002014-07-03T10:33:12.237+10:00Dear Anonymous at 10:15 a.m.,
You are still in c...Dear Anonymous at 10:15 a.m., <br /><br />You are still in contradiction when you agree with Junglewatch (whose author is from Guam). Junglewatch preach against the Archbishop and agrees that priests can resist the Archbishop, which goes against the Church teachings and contrary to what Cardinal Arinze says in his book to young priests. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-90560886854973432552014-07-03T10:15:11.429+10:002014-07-03T10:15:11.429+10:00Anon at 1.22pm , you are correct. I am not from Gu...Anon at 1.22pm , you are correct. I am not from Guam. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-22246216235851686522014-07-03T10:14:26.290+10:002014-07-03T10:14:26.290+10:00AnonymousJuly 3, 2014 at 7:39 AM I have to disagre...AnonymousJuly 3, 2014 at 7:39 AM I have to disagree with you, the saints that you've mentioned did not have regular natural religiosity. Attending Sunday mass regularly is okay. But Pope Francis called out every baptize Christian ( Catholic) to evangelize and not to stay complacent. The Saints went out on mission and took their Christianity to another level. They (Saints) announced the Gospel and lived it. For Example Saint Father Damien (Belgium Priest) volunteered to quest to the Island of Moloka'i; to erect a Parish for the lepers. He was a healthy 33 years old when he started the mission, he gave the sick and the dying hope and love. He knew he is at risk to die but he risk with GOD. He was also persecuted and ridicule after he was diagnosed of leprosy. The Government Clinical Directors claim that he had sexual engagement with the lepers in Molokai but he devoted himself of not breaking his oath. <br />I apologize if I came to be arrogant on what I posted and I hope you find a way in your heart to forgive me. No your not scrap but what I'm saying that you don't have to join the Neocatechumenal Way if you don't want to, but the Way's mission to bring back those people were broken and do not believe the Catholic Church, like my close relative who join the Harvest Baptist Church. Just to let you know also that the Way encourage me to educate myself about our beautiful Catholic Church and defend it on whoever dare to say is wrong. In fact it made me grew to LOVE our Catholic Church. Again the way is not intend to suffocate you but the WAY is a nucleus to bring those brothers back to our Catholic Apostolic Church. We all are guilty of secularism and this INSTRUMENT is the way that the CATHOLIC Church still exist that Saint Peter received from Jesus Christ.<br /><br />God Bless You. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-5615339716361342282014-07-03T09:32:56.064+10:002014-07-03T09:32:56.064+10:00Dear Anonymous at 8:12 a.m.
??????? I do not u...Dear Anonymous at 8:12 a.m. <br /><br />??????? I do not understand, but you are welcome. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-19877023450612186352014-07-03T08:34:43.741+10:002014-07-03T08:34:43.741+10:00Dear Anonymous at 7:39 am,
You are correct that ...Dear Anonymous at 7:39 am, <br /><br />You are correct that Padre Pio, Mother Teresa, and many other saints were not in the Way. A person does not have to be in the Way to become a holy saint. Nevertheless, the Way exists to help those who want to become a saint. God called every one of us to be holy. Padre Pio was able to be holy through the priesthood while Mother Teresa found it by being a nun. There are many movements and religious organizations out there to help people grow in faith. The NCW is just one of them. But we are supposed to grow in faith, so that we know that it is God's hand who steers the Catholic Church. In the Way, we do not go by blind faith. If a catechists tells us to steal or murder, we know enough to report them. But we also know that when a catechists tells us to obey the Archbishop, we know that it is God speaking through him because he is not saying anything that goes against the Church. It is those who oppose the Archbishop who goes against the Church. And the priests who incite the flock to go against the Archbishop has committed the worst obedience. Not only did he sinned, but he is responsible for many others falling into sin.<br /><br /> <br /><br />Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-21515419175567634312014-07-03T08:12:17.871+10:002014-07-03T08:12:17.871+10:00Thank you Diana, breath of Jesus's spirit my ...Thank you Diana, breath of Jesus's spirit my prayers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-4317240214469209192014-07-03T08:12:07.341+10:002014-07-03T08:12:07.341+10:00Dear Anonymous at 6:07 a.m.,
I am not pontificat...Dear Anonymous at 6:07 a.m., <br /><br />I am not pontificating. I am posting Catholic doctrine to show you what I learned in the NCW. I learned that a priest takes a vow of obedience and is supposed to obey the Archbishop. We learned that we are to follow our Church leaders and all those whom God put in authority over us. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-13977987652569850882014-07-03T08:05:52.369+10:002014-07-03T08:05:52.369+10:00Dear Anonymous at 1:22 a.m.,
He could have writt...Dear Anonymous at 1:22 a.m., <br /><br />He could have written it, knowing that the Archbishop is a bishop anyway. I did the same thing in some of my comments and posts. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-60436439372278057672014-07-03T08:01:25.857+10:002014-07-03T08:01:25.857+10:00Dear Catholics United
These small group of celebr...Dear Catholics United<br /><br />These small group of celebrations was approved by the Vatican. The Vatican did not create a segregation. Many of the members in my community have built up the parish church by becoming lectors and alter servers. They volunteered their time to fix up and maintain the Church grounds. Others became CCD instructors for the parish. A couple of them now attend the parish mass on a daily basis. Tell me, what do you do help build up your parish other than sit in the pews every Sunday Mass? <br /> Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-56199839519177582012014-07-03T07:53:07.197+10:002014-07-03T07:53:07.197+10:00Dear Anonymous at 9:29 p.m.,
There is no problem...Dear Anonymous at 9:29 p.m., <br /><br />There is no problem with disagreements, but in the end, one has to obey. The Archbishop obeyed by accepting the NCW and the changes that came with it. The priest must also do the same now that the Archbishop has told them to open their parish for the NCW. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-73272315829246659652014-07-03T07:43:43.000+10:002014-07-03T07:43:43.000+10:001:55 there you go again with the condemning. Is no...1:55 there you go again with the condemning. Is not the "Cathloic Medjugorje" yours as well or are you in a different church?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-18871933679499459472014-07-03T07:39:34.941+10:002014-07-03T07:39:34.941+10:00Lol 7:21..."if you prefer scraps then stay wh...Lol 7:21..."if you prefer scraps then stay where you are" So you are saying you have the better faith because you are in the way and those that don't join have "natural religiosity" - as if it is a remedial understanding of faith? So you automatically know the depth of faith an individual has and their relationship with God just because they are not in the way?<br /><br />Padre Pio, Mother Teresa, Lucia, Jacinta, and Francesco, etc all had natural religiosity? These holy ones of our time were not in the way, yet they thrived in their spiritual life sans the way, so if one doesn't want to be walker then more power to them - they will still find God and be loved by him. Walkers do not have a monopoly on that so reserve your judgements to yourself!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-72123629435019441552014-07-03T06:07:44.184+10:002014-07-03T06:07:44.184+10:00Diana, YOU are also not a bishop. Stop pontificat...Diana, YOU are also not a bishop. Stop pontificating. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-6784671588559744582014-07-03T01:22:54.962+10:002014-07-03T01:22:54.962+10:00What makes you so sure that Anon @ 6:47 PM is from...What makes you so sure that Anon @ 6:47 PM is from Guam, Diana? 6:47 could be from another diocese. That's why 6:47 said "I listen to the Church. I listen to my Bishop." Notice that 6:47 began the comment referring to the Archbishop. But 6:47 did not write Archbishop at the end. It has been pointed out that Archbishop Apuron will correct anyone who calls him "Bishop." 6:47 could be a visitor from anywhere in the world. You yourself said that you have readers from all around the world. Therefore if 6:47's Bishop is not Archbishop Apuron, it would not be a contradiction for 6:47 to listen to his/her Bishop and still agree with JungleWatch. <br /><br />Makes sense, right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-12782569643223161652014-07-02T23:53:17.436+10:002014-07-02T23:53:17.436+10:0063 is a doozy!! It's as if the Synod foresaw ...63 is a doozy!! It's as if the Synod foresaw the negative possibilities of the movement and steers those in the movement to unify and not be parallel. i.e. To Cite a recent example of this no-no, there should be NO SUCH THING as a TWO Easter Vigils for the Parishes.<br /><br />Unfortunately what the Synod has feared and warned has happened within our Diocese because of these small group celebrations. Please write the Nuncio everyone. Let us put this Diocese back into order. Face it, despite the good that the NCW does with one's coming back to their faith, it can't help but be derisive to the overall development of the Church because of all of it's activities which create a segregation between Catholics.<br /><br />Catholics Unitednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-735298050225864482014-07-02T23:31:45.966+10:002014-07-02T23:31:45.966+10:00Dear Anonymous at 7:33 p.m.,
I did not condemn t...Dear Anonymous at 7:33 p.m., <br /><br />I did not condemn the Filipino priests. They condemned themselves when they disobeyed the Archbishop. They were the ones who took a vow of obedience. I do not considered it as bullying because the Archbishop has authority over the priests. Do not put words in my mouth. I never said anything about Father Paul. I was referring to those priests on Guam who disobeyed the Archbishop when he asked them to open up their parish for the NCW. The priests has no authority to tell the Archbishop what to do. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-43649787167606570962014-07-02T23:24:14.481+10:002014-07-02T23:24:14.481+10:00Dear Anonymous at 6:47 p.m.,
When God told Abrah...Dear Anonymous at 6:47 p.m., <br /><br />When God told Abraham to leave his country, Abraham did not question God about it. When God told Abraham that He will make him the father of many nations, Abraham did not ask God "how." This is what "obedience to faith" is.<br /><br />You say you agree with Junglewatch and you listen to the Bishop? Tim Rohr is NOT a bishop. You cannot agree with Junglewatch (which is against the Archbishop) and say that you listen to the Bishop. That is a contradiction. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-73527838784565472272014-07-02T21:30:36.356+10:002014-07-02T21:30:36.356+10:00Anon 1:15 PM, how can you prevent a community from...Anon 1:15 PM, how can you prevent a community from being formed? It is none of your business, but the business of those who want to walk!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-86641892472986917182014-07-02T21:29:11.511+10:002014-07-02T21:29:11.511+10:00Anonymous 2:49 PM, if you cannot impose acceptance...Anonymous 2:49 PM, if you cannot impose acceptance of the Way on anyone then you cannot impose rejection of the Way either. Whoever want to walk, let them be walking!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-87211498377521396522014-07-02T21:29:11.128+10:002014-07-02T21:29:11.128+10:00"i don't know why he wants us to conform?..."i don't know why he wants us to conform?" Archbishop Apuron. <br /><br />comform- to comply. <br /><br />when you read this quote from the Archbishop do the logic functions in your brain simply shut off and you believe you are still conscientiously right? Archbishop Apuron, at the time spokesman for the movement tells the world that the NCW at least in his Diocese, will not OBEY the Cardinal. <br /><br />Hard to dispute what the man actually says. C'mon now tell me i'm wrong and everything you all do conforms...Catholics Unitednoreply@blogger.com