tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post2351193211507422036..comments2024-03-20T11:41:40.379+10:00Comments on Neocatechumenal Way - An Insider's View: How The Way Helps FamiliesDianahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-18953456413315162032015-03-21T22:05:27.705+10:002015-03-21T22:05:27.705+10:00Dear anonymous at 8:37 pm,
The Archbishop alreadY...Dear anonymous at 8:37 pm,<br /><br />The Archbishop alreadY came out and publicly said that the title is under the Archdiocese of Agana. His story has not changed.Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-21019256875763701232015-03-21T20:37:05.150+10:002015-03-21T20:37:05.150+10:00How is it , Diana, that you are authoritative spok...How is it , Diana, that you are authoritative spokesperson for the status of Yona transactions?? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-7515510409459290052015-03-21T17:37:26.187+10:002015-03-21T17:37:26.187+10:00Dear Anonymous at 3:52 pm,
The anonymous donor ...Dear Anonymous at 3:52 pm, <br /><br />The anonymous donor said that he wanted the money he gave to the Archdiocese to be used specifically used for a seminary. The perpetual use was made to ensure that his wishes were carried out. The Archbishop should be commended for keeping his promise to the donor. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-18863643658720678802015-03-21T15:52:52.630+10:002015-03-21T15:52:52.630+10:00Dear Diana, what happens if the next Local Ordinar...Dear Diana, what happens if the next Local Ordinary does not want to use the property as a seminary. What is the next Ordinary does want to mortgage and build a better suited seminary? What happens if the next Local Ordinary does not welcome the Neo Way in his diocese? What happens if the next Ordinary sees the wisdom to sell and invest for the present and future needs of the poor, the sick the homeless the building and upkeep of churches and schools? These are legitimate questions. Can you answer any of them? Please note that none of these scenarios include paying off bank debts. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-398657570094037162015-03-21T07:18:14.360+10:002015-03-21T07:18:14.360+10:00Dear Anonymous at 6:59 pm,
I already said that t...Dear Anonymous at 6:59 pm, <br /><br />I already said that the title is under the Archdiocese of Agana........so what part in that sentence do you not understand????? The house still belongs to the Archdiocese. Perpetual use simply means that it cannot be sold or mortgaged. It is to be used for only one purpose. This keep people like the former finance council from selling it. If the finance council had sold it, then the title would no longer be under the Archdiocese of Agana. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-29765723071867055032015-03-21T07:13:14.368+10:002015-03-21T07:13:14.368+10:00Dear Anonymous at 9:57 pm,
The Archbishop never ...Dear Anonymous at 9:57 pm, <br /><br />The Archbishop never post in public the reasons why he transferred the priest such as Monsignor James. It was Monsignor James who made the reason public. And the Archbishop was following the Pope when he published the Internal Review. Pope Francis made it clear that he wants all financial report published. CCOG and the jungle also wanted the same thing. Why they are complaining when the Internal Review was published is beyond me. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-13595721925799131112015-03-21T07:04:45.934+10:002015-03-21T07:04:45.934+10:00here is what the Popes says...
Pope Francis gave ...here is what the Popes says...<br /><br />Pope Francis gave an example: “when I feel envy in my heart and I know that this envy is capable of speaking ill of others and morally assassinating them”, this is “the wisdom of judging oneself”. "If we do not learn this first step in life, we will never, never be able to take other steps on the road of our Christian life, of our spiritual life”. <br /><br /> “The first step” then, “is to judge ourselves. Without saying anything out loud. Between you and your conscience. Walking down the street, I pass by a prison and say: "Well, they deserve it" - "Yet do you know that if it weren’t for the grace of God you would be there? Did you ever think that you are capable of doing the things that they have done, even worse?” This is what judging yourself means, not hiding from the roots of sin that are in all of us, the many things we are capable of doing, even if we cannot seen them”.<br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-24461319211819927092015-03-20T21:57:59.531+10:002015-03-20T21:57:59.531+10:00Diana, The difference between Tim Rohr/Junglewa...Diana, The difference between Tim Rohr/Junglewatch and our AAA is quite obvious but you tend to totally ignore it. AAA is our spiritual LEADER for the Catholics in Guam. He has the authority to transfer priests to other parish without explanation. It is also expected for people in the community who don't agree with AAA to criticize and antagonize his decision. That is something all Leaders will endure. Our Governor moved Directors around. The Superintendent of Education moved Principals around. The Police Chief moved Precinct OICs around. People in the community who don't agree with the moves criticized them. But as good leaders, they don't post in public the details of the move to humiliate their subordinates. It doesn't matter if Gofigan or Benavente drew first blood. AAA should remain focus and stay with the high roads. He is our spiritual leader. The more AAA reacts to Junglewatch, the deeper he puts himself in the hole. That is exactly where Junglewatch wants AAA to be. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-56240104514613455992015-03-20T18:59:40.767+10:002015-03-20T18:59:40.767+10:00Diana, do you really feel your house is yours if y...Diana, do you really feel your house is yours if you have given it to strangers to USE in PERPETUITY? that is the point. And it was signed by a guy named Anthony S Apuron, not the Arcbishop of Agana. Remember , your house is yours, but you can't use it. Will you agree? How will your family feel if you did this without asking them?? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-74041390674088107562015-03-20T16:08:51.914+10:002015-03-20T16:08:51.914+10:00Dear Anonymous at 2:37 pm,
You stated: " I ...Dear Anonymous at 2:37 pm, <br /><br />You stated: " I find it appalling to believe that our AAA will publish Monsignor James "White Collar" crime in our Umatuna vice settle his case in court. I am greatful that our Church is not in the habit of prosecuting people. But it is worse to prosecute people in public without due process." <br /><br />It is worse to prosecute people in public?? The jungle does that all the time with the Archbishop, So, I am not surprised that they are also prosecuting Luis Camacho in public. <br /><br />As I recall, It was Monsignor James who went public first. If Monsignor James had not gone public, the matter would have been dealt with and settled inside the Church between him and the Archbishop. Both CCOG and the jungle cried out for "transparency." When the Archbishop remains silent, they demand that he speaks and be transparent. And when he spoke and was transparent, they complain. <br /><br />No matter what the Archbishop says, CCOG and the jungle will label him a liar even if he is telling the truth. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-35466851275426928172015-03-20T15:23:29.884+10:002015-03-20T15:23:29.884+10:00Dear Anonymous at 2:51 pm,
Please do not make fa...Dear Anonymous at 2:51 pm, <br /><br />Please do not make false assumptions simply because I said "to get the seminary back." How else am I supposed to say what the intention of CCOG is????? When I say that CCOG is exploring the option of suing the Archbishop in order to get the seminary back.....I am referring to the intention of their lawsuit. Surely, you do not think that I was going to say that they are exploring the option of suing the Archbishop for the seminary to stay in the Archdiocese of Agana just as it is now????? <br /><br />You stated, "It is an alienation of the property, whether strictly TRANSFERRED OR NOT." So, it does not matter if was transferred or not.........it is still an alienation of property????? This is the same thing as "damned if you do and damned if you don't." Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-68940777495804383242015-03-20T14:51:35.994+10:002015-03-20T14:51:35.994+10:00It is an alienation of the property, whether stric...It is an alienation of the property, whether strictly transferred or nor. It has been demonstrated time and again that the NCW judge the impropriety of an action on whether or not they get caught, but for the rest of us, a wrong action will always be just that. Whether the CCOG, or anyone else, successfully sues the Archbishop to get the seminary back is not the measure of whether the action was right or wrong. And the fact that you used the words "to get the seminary back" is quite revealing - you obviously believe it was alienated too!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-68092383243797973292015-03-20T14:37:49.922+10:002015-03-20T14:37:49.922+10:00I wasn't referring to Monsignor James, I was c...I wasn't referring to Monsignor James, I was comparing his case to Gofigan's case. However, since you brought up Monsignor James' case, I find it appalling to believe that our AAA will publish Monsignor James "White Collar" crime in our Umatuna vice settle his case in court. I am greatful that our Church is not in the habit of prosecuting people. But it is worse to prosecute people in public without due process. The same concept applies to Camacho. People in Junglewatch are crucifying him which I believe is unfair to him. I believe in innocent until proven guilty. Both Camacho and Benavente should have their fair share in court to explain their case. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-16450869560871979402015-03-20T14:14:27.699+10:002015-03-20T14:14:27.699+10:00Dear Anonymous at 2:03 pm,
The Archbishop did no...Dear Anonymous at 2:03 pm, <br /><br />The Archbishop did not transfer seminary to another entity because the title is still under the Archdiocese of Agana. Whether you believe that or not is not the Archbishop's problem nor mine. I hear that CCOG is exploring the option of suing the Archbishop in order to get the seminary back. So, how is that going??? Or were they finally told that the title is already under the Archdocese of Agana?????Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-10555103332635373892015-03-20T14:03:59.661+10:002015-03-20T14:03:59.661+10:00Transferring an asset of the Archdiocese to anothe...Transferring an asset of the Archdiocese to another entity without the express permission of the Finance Council is a "white collar crime" committed against the Church. Its a good thing for the Archbishop he did not do this at the government level - the government would not hesitate to prosecute him. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-83084420830899144982015-03-20T13:53:37.277+10:002015-03-20T13:53:37.277+10:00Dear Anonymous at 12:50 pm,
What Monsignor James...Dear Anonymous at 12:50 pm, <br /><br />What Monsignor James did was also a crime. It is a "white collar" crime. I have said this before. Monsignor James is very fortunate that he committed a crime against the Church because the Church is not in the habit of prosecuting people. If he had done this at the government level, the government would not hesitate to prosecute him. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-30456744945477864622015-03-20T12:50:43.650+10:002015-03-20T12:50:43.650+10:00Camacho's case is a criminal case and Gofigan&...Camacho's case is a criminal case and Gofigan's case is a policy case. Camacho was arrested. Gofigan was not. Sex or not, Camacho should receive a harsher punishment than Gofigan. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-85610257079300175472015-03-20T10:09:36.407+10:002015-03-20T10:09:36.407+10:00Dear Anonymous at 8:40 am,
Please be realistic. ...Dear Anonymous at 8:40 am, <br /><br />Please be realistic. There are priests who are not in the RMS seminary and who have committed sins and even crimes. Let us take a look, for example, at the priests who were found guilty of the sex scandal. Do you blame the seminary that these priests attended?? Is the entire Catholic Church to be blamed for the sex scandal committed by these few priests? I agree that it does not look good for the Catholic Church that these priests have sexually abused young boys, but who is at fault.....the Catholic Church or the priests who committed the act?? Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-13735417539174944782015-03-20T08:40:37.687+10:002015-03-20T08:40:37.687+10:00
Diana, rms is known as a rogue seminary . As you ...<br />Diana, rms is known as a rogue seminary . As you support all this you support Luis Camacho. This is the brand of obedience that you teach. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-33749166282294978672015-03-19T11:11:59.810+10:002015-03-19T11:11:59.810+10:00Dear Anonymous at 10:39 am,
Please do not twist ...Dear Anonymous at 10:39 am, <br /><br />Please do not twist my words around. I said I agree with her. We do not know the whole story. <br />Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-91788448135583409272015-03-19T10:39:33.237+10:002015-03-19T10:39:33.237+10:00"The CCOG has been doing a great job of prese..."The CCOG has been doing a great job of presenting the facts and making this a clean fight"<br /><br />"If we don't, then we are no better than the Archbishop on his treatment of Father Paul and Monsignor James."<br /><br />Nice to know you agree with these statements DianaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-54595553925173351472015-03-19T10:26:43.456+10:002015-03-19T10:26:43.456+10:00Dear Anonymous at 10:21 am,
I am glad that Mrs. ...Dear Anonymous at 10:21 am, <br /><br />I am glad that Mrs. O'Mallen came out to say this. I agree with what she says. We do not know the full story. We only know what was printed in the PDN and KUAM. <br />Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-65676917754408108212015-03-19T10:21:36.744+10:002015-03-19T10:21:36.744+10:00Diane ths was published by Sharon O'Mallen in ...Diane ths was published by Sharon O'Mallen in the jungle: <br /><br />Sharon O'MallanMarch 19, 2015 at 9:03 AM<br /><br />I was hesitant to comment but at the same time I am concerned about everyone's reaction to this story. At this time we don't know the whole story and should wait to hear what really transpired between Father Luis and the 17 year old minor. Was she a relative? a Friend?, a possible suicidal? or something else. Whatever transpired, the best we should do is wait until we learn the whole story. We need to afford Father Luis and this 17 year old minor the same courtesy we had wished the Archbishop should have done to Father Paul and Monsignor James. If we don't, then we are no better than the Archbishop on his treatment of Father Paul and Monsignor James.<br /><br />Father Luis will be properly held accountable by the civil authorities. The 17 year old minor will hopefully be counseled so that she does not feel that this was all her fault. She is the minor and we don't want to make her a further victim by our reaction.<br /><br />Let us not blacken our souls and say mean and angry things. The CCOG has been doing a great job of presenting the facts and making this a clean fight. This incident is not related to the problem and we shouldn't be distracted by it or become our own worst enemies. <br /><br />Please, we should always pray for our Priest, all Priest including Father Luis. I am hoping this is all just a misunderstanding.<br /><br />Thank you for listening.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-24126528514446972322015-03-19T10:20:43.722+10:002015-03-19T10:20:43.722+10:00Dear Anonymous at 8:57 am,
The story of sexual c...Dear Anonymous at 8:57 am, <br /><br />The story of sexual crime is the fiction. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-8279895422325072282015-03-19T10:18:51.570+10:002015-03-19T10:18:51.570+10:00I, as well as everyone else should be praying for ...I, as well as everyone else should be praying for Fr. Luis and the whole Catholic on Guam. What kind of Christians beat a man while he is down? To assume and put awful thoughts in people's heads about the police report? It saddens me that it has come to this. All of a sudden there are surges of anonymous comments crucfying the Archbishop and Fr Luis. How clearly I can see the evil that has infiltrated our people. <br /><br />We must pray and love one another. Please people. Would you say those awful things if your name was attached? Let the Church handle the matter. ImHow dare people demand details to further pollute their twisted minds. <br /><br />Hoping for peaceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com