tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post1094143309361964998..comments2024-03-20T11:41:40.379+10:00Comments on Neocatechumenal Way - An Insider's View: Public Law 33-187Dianahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-39507785235644791832017-05-01T10:30:47.359+10:002017-05-01T10:30:47.359+10:00Got it TimGot it TimAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-80104537734509666662017-05-01T08:15:36.446+10:002017-05-01T08:15:36.446+10:00I'm 9:36 AM and guess what? I'm not Tim ei...I'm 9:36 AM and guess what? I'm not Tim either 1;52 PM<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-45407150278746389662017-04-30T13:52:26.245+10:002017-04-30T13:52:26.245+10:00No Tim I'm not you at 9:36 amNo Tim I'm not you at 9:36 amAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-36942087945018539692017-04-28T09:36:04.404+10:002017-04-28T09:36:04.404+10:00Are YOU Tim Rohr Mr/Mrs/Ms/Dr Anonymous 2:32? LOLAre YOU Tim Rohr Mr/Mrs/Ms/Dr Anonymous 2:32? LOLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-68668969972545554042017-04-28T06:00:39.830+10:002017-04-28T06:00:39.830+10:00Dear Anonymous at 2:13 am,
Exactly. They are not...Dear Anonymous at 2:13 am, <br /><br />Exactly. They are not even human beings. And human beings are the only ones who sins.Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-86765042657415939672017-04-28T02:13:16.863+10:002017-04-28T02:13:16.863+10:00Yes you are right. A juridic person is an entity w...Yes you are right. A juridic person is an entity which is treated as ifit were a person under canon law. From Wiki:<br /><br />"A juridic person... is an artificial person, distinct from all natural persons or material goods, constituted by competent ecclesiastical authority for an apostolic purpose, with a capacity for continuous existence and with canonical rights and duties like those of a natural person... conferred upon it by law or by the authority which constitutes it and to which it is also accountable under canon law."<br /><br />Also from Wiki (Corporate Persons): "Corporate personhood is the legal notion that a corporation, separately from its associated human beings (like owners, managers, or employees), has at least some of the legal rights and <b>responsibilities</b> enjoyed by natural persons (physical humans)"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-44618740295640672192017-04-27T16:16:24.561+10:002017-04-27T16:16:24.561+10:00Dear Anonymous at 2:47 pm,
The law never defined...Dear Anonymous at 2:47 pm, <br /><br />The law never defined the "corporation" as a person. It simply stated that the corporation has an identity of its own different from it's shareholders and owners, but it was never identified as a "person". Also, "juridic person" is a term found in the church, but not in secular law.Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-27056406110968008932017-04-27T14:32:36.687+10:002017-04-27T14:32:36.687+10:00All the Anonymous is that you Tim Rohr Millions???...All the Anonymous is that you Tim Rohr Millions??? like in easily 40 Million dollarsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-91863030666737832192017-04-27T14:01:48.035+10:002017-04-27T14:01:48.035+10:00Institution holds Billions of dollars in Banks of ...Institution holds Billions of dollars in Banks of Guam.Give one Billion to Victims show sincerity. One Billion is a small percent of Guam's Archdiocese. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-74566194152162561692017-04-27T13:48:06.556+10:002017-04-27T13:48:06.556+10:00Is it ok to sue the Boy Scouts?Is it ok to sue the Boy Scouts?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-16356511239307099522017-04-27T13:47:44.917+10:002017-04-27T13:47:44.917+10:00"Again an institution is not a person"
..."Again an institution is not a person"<br /><br />Well a "corporate sole" is a person. That's the whole point. And, from th epoint of view of the law, any corporation is essentially a person.<br /><br />In fact, the NCW is considered a "juridic person", is it not?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-37450120039950776172017-04-27T13:47:07.135+10:002017-04-27T13:47:07.135+10:00Are you ok with the Boy Scouts being sued for the ...Are you ok with the Boy Scouts being sued for the acts of Fr. Louis Brouillard Diana?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-77112302151120865542017-04-27T11:49:57.056+10:002017-04-27T11:49:57.056+10:00I meant you CAN get millions of dollars from an in...I meant you CAN get millions of dollars from an institution rather than a person. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-73525917974789366022017-04-27T11:47:26.183+10:002017-04-27T11:47:26.183+10:00The original intent of the "Silent no more&qu...The original intent of the "Silent no more" was to sue the person. I think most people would have no problem with that. But somewhere in the process, someone changed the Bill to include the institution, perhaps because greed came into the picture. You can't get millions of dollars from an institution rather than a person.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-22477578102764411092017-04-27T11:21:37.875+10:002017-04-27T11:21:37.875+10:00Dear Anonymous at 10:37 am,
Again an institution...Dear Anonymous at 10:37 am, <br /><br />Again an institution is not a person. An institution can have corrupted people, and to clean the institution is to take out the corrupted people rather than to sue the institution.Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-36973624996092675322017-04-27T10:37:37.676+10:002017-04-27T10:37:37.676+10:00The same could be said to you about leaving the in...The same could be said to you about leaving the institution. As for the reason, where you placed your reason wasn't in the public forum but AFTER the law was passed. While it's true that people commit the crimes, it's the institution which they hide behind. Look at brother tony who hid Luis camacho or the fact that the archdiocese is still paying broulard. Brother tony is just one example of how the institution can easily be used for the crimes which were committed. There was never any checks and balances and bishops on up had immense power within because the institution was easily flawed. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-56700331600081699112017-04-27T10:06:53.007+10:002017-04-27T10:06:53.007+10:00Dear Anonymous at 9:47 am,
For your information,...Dear Anonymous at 9:47 am, <br /><br />For your information, the petition came with a reason. One does not sign a petition without reading what they are signing for.<br /><br />I gave my reason in another post, but you either missed that post or you did not like my reason. Only people commit crimes. Institutions are not people. It was people who hid the priests by transferring them from one place to another. <br /><br />If you believe that the institution (Catholic Church) committed the crime, you can always leave that institution. Yet, why you stay is baffling.Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-25862235829483405072017-04-27T09:47:52.811+10:002017-04-27T09:47:52.811+10:00There was only ONE who spoke up in opposition agai...There was only ONE who spoke up in opposition against many others who actually gave testimony on why the law should be passed. Just a signature with no reason is not even close to actual testimony. None of you provided any reasons yet you CRY FOUL about it AFTER the law was passed. <br /><br />Even now, you provide no evidence or reason WHY the institutions which hide these pedophiles shouldn't be punished. Hiding and shuffling these pedophiles goes against what God teaches us and yet you are for the very institutions which harbor them because you refuse to believe that what they've done is just WRONG....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-916432518874614152017-04-27T09:26:16.976+10:002017-04-27T09:26:16.976+10:00Dear Anonymous at 8:29 am,
You are correct that ...Dear Anonymous at 8:29 am, <br /><br />You are correct that I was not at the public hearing. Nevertheless, I spoke out in opposition by signing the petition, which is another form of expression. One person spoke up in the public hearing, but the senators were too caught up in their emotions rather than with reason and logic. <br /><br />Although many more stood against the Bill through the petition, even the governor signed it into law despite that he admitted that the Bill was questionable. Again, reason and logic went out the window.Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-31734892484272534042017-04-27T08:29:52.640+10:002017-04-27T08:29:52.640+10:00Diana, you had a chance to speak freely during the...Diana, you had a chance to speak freely during the public hearings. Where were you? You have a lot to say about the law yet what have you done to say anything against it if you feel so strongly against it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-67465918769045214842017-04-27T08:20:58.929+10:002017-04-27T08:20:58.929+10:00Dear Anonymous at 6:44 am,
Please read the OP. T...Dear Anonymous at 6:44 am, <br /><br />Please read the OP. This is about a law that has a loophole in which scammers can come in to dupe the Archdiocese of millions of dollars. An investigation is the only thing that can determine who is a scammer and who is not. But so far, we have lawsuits and no investigations. If the Guam Legislature had bothered to put in "investigations" as part of the law, the loophole might be closed to scammers. The only investigation that was conducted is the canonical trial of Archbishop Apuron.Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-16077064717251710122017-04-27T06:44:38.959+10:002017-04-27T06:44:38.959+10:00So where is your proof Diana that at least one of ...So where is your proof Diana that at least one of these victims is a scammer? You seem to find them guilty of a scam rather then feel any compassion to what they've endured. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-1304660522819104302017-04-27T06:03:19.439+10:002017-04-27T06:03:19.439+10:00Dear Anonymous at 12:28 am,
The woman who scamme...Dear Anonymous at 12:28 am, <br /><br />The woman who scammed the Church of $188,000 also gave her name. It was the newspaper that suppressed it. Also, lately there has been a number of lawsuits who only gave their initials. Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-67106003141722508472017-04-27T00:28:41.059+10:002017-04-27T00:28:41.059+10:00The prood that they are not scammers Diana, is tha...The prood that they are not scammers Diana, is that they put their name, honor on the line unlike you who continues to hide behind Diana...funny thing is you can't even be truthful and honest. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8205973525389434155.post-59300857840993924062017-04-26T14:15:38.707+10:002017-04-26T14:15:38.707+10:00Dear Anonymous at 12:16 pm,
What proof do you ha...Dear Anonymous at 12:16 pm, <br /><br />What proof do you have that they are not......especially the ones whose alleged perpetrators and witnesses are long dead? I pointed out the flaw in the law. It is unfortunate that the senators who passed this law did not put in any measures to prevent someone from taking advantage of the system.Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13613247477141929635noreply@blogger.com